cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/43828737
Michelle Goldberg Feb. 27, 2026, 6:47 p.m. ET
https://archive.ph/kOzWb#selection-4499.0-4501.12
It’s been obvious for some time that Americans are souring on Israel, but a Gallup poll that came out on Friday marks a turning point. For the first time in the poll’s 25-year history, it found, more Americans sympathize with the Palestinians than with the Israelis. The shift wasn’t just among Democrats, whose opinion of Israel has been in free fall in recent years. According to Gallup, only 30 percent of independents now sympathize with Israel; 41 percent sympathize with the Palestinians. Among adults under 35, support for Israel has fallen to a record low of 23 percent. With numbers like this, bipartisan backing for Israel, long a constant in American politics, will in time become unsustainable.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel famously prides himself on his ability to shape American policy. As he said in a secretly recorded 2001 conversation, “I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction.” Yet he has presided over an ongoing collapse in American Zionism and could eventually go down in history as the prime minister who lost Israel’s most important ally.
The US went to war after 9/11 and killed far more people.
Yet Israel going to war after the massive attack on civilians wasn’t okay?
I guarantee that if there was another massive attack on American civilians today (by anyone other than an American) they would gladly go after a country again.
America, you’re currently being hypocrites.
Lol MF its always been a problem. We still haven’t answered for attempts at genocide in the north American continent, let alone abroad.
The difference Israel is making is pushing an entire people for multiple generations to the brink to feel no option left but to fight back and then suddenly say “Oh geez, how terrible. Better flatten your entire civilian population.” Your argument here stinks of “but do you condemn Hamas” a full 2.5 years later and the blood of 10x the Palestinians and debunked reporting of what happened.
Be better, yo.
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I’m bringing this to the attention of the DB0 and AN admins. this is a clear call for ethnic cleansing and you should be banned from lemmy.ca for being a horrible person who supports that.
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no, you’ll die a nobody who advocated for a genocide that is increasingly unpopular. you’ll die after having seen the american people finally throw off the shackles of Israeli control of US politicians. you’ll die cursing the inevitable demise of the zionist state.
and when you die, the only good you will have done the world in your entire sad, miserable little racist life, is to leave it.
That’s funny. There’s no shackles to break off. This isn’t a 40 year bribery scandal, it’s a proxy war. No different than the ones fought in Korea, Vietnam, Ukraine, Afghanistan, or elsewhere.
Israel can’t even “buy” Canadian politicians, there’s no super pacs, there’s no corporate donations, there’s almost no influence here from them.
Yet the Canadian governments for the last few decades, Conservative AND Liberal, have always supported Israel against Iran. They STILL support Israel, despite it being massively unpopular among their voters and them losing votes over it.
Because once they become MPs, they get educated on what’s really happening and why it’s important.
I almost want your side to win sometimes, so that when the inevitable worse situation occurs a new generation can be educated on why violence is sometimes necessary to prevent far worse violence. It was a lesson learned through the sacrifice of tens of millions in the world wars, and yet it has been forgotten by those who fail to learn from history.
Literally a fucking crime against humanity…
And obviously still genocide
The term “forcible transfer” describes the forced relocation of civilian populations as part of an organized offensive against that population. It is a crime against humanity punishable by the International Criminal Court (ICC). The fifth punishable act of genocide is the forcible transfer of children from one protected group to another. The definition was part of a draft provided by the UN Secretariat that was used as the foundation for the 1948-adopted Genocide Convention.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/forcible_transfer
So is genocide, pick one.
There isn’t a peaceful option remaining at this point. Anyone who thinks there is hasn’t been paying attention the last 80 years of history.
Yes…
I’m aware genocide is genocide, just like genocide is…
What don’t you understand about the fact that you’re arguing for genocide?
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So to be clear:
You now understandstand that you were calling for an ongoing genocide, to genocide even more people.
That has not changed your opinion, and you still want more genocide?
I want people to stop killing each other. If it means genocide (displacing people) to prevent more genocide (killing people) as a REALISTIC answer, then yes. That’s what I want to see happen.
Nobody else here giving any real answers other than wishful thinking.
Do you really believe, that if everyone stopped supporting Israel and they lost all basic ability to hurt anyone, all the groups that are attacking Israel are going to magically stop.
Do you actually think that’s what would happen?
If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.
What the actual fuck are you on about. You are literally yada-ing the destruction of a people.
What completely peaceful solution is realistic?
If people don’t get along, you separate them.
Everyone whining about Israel just stopping is completely ignoring the fact that other people will keep attacking them.
Israel isn’t at war. Israel is committing genocide. and even if they weren’t, you’re arguing with the assumption that it was OK when the US did it.
it was not. the US is a terrorist regime, the genocide of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan was not OK, and it isn’t OK that Israel is doing it now. both governments need toppled, and the Israeli government needs lined up against the wall and shot for their crimes against humanity.
Legally speaking the US didn’t declare war on Afghanistan, Iraq, or even Vietnam.
You’re being idealistic, the world isn’t that simple and your simple thinking would lead to ruin by people who will take advantage of such a power vacuum that would be created.
Israel has broad western backing for a reason, and it has nothing to do with funding, bribery, Jews mind controlling people or any such wild theories. It has to do with the realistic understanding that there are countries who should not be allowed to gain power or it will threaten the western way of life. Geopolitics doesn’t give a shit about your feelings.
nobody said any of that shit. stop trying to manufacture some antisemitic angle to this. you’re not smart enough for that, and your attempt is ridiculously pathetic. Israel has western backing because they funnel money back to politicians that support them, letting them embezzle millions from their own taxpayers.
if your western way of life is murdering brown people, you don’t deserve to have that life, and it should be taken from you. at the point of a precision guided bomb or drone, if necessary.
Israel does not have support because of bribery, I literally just said that, and you immediately said it was because of payoffs to politicians.
It’s not about fucking bribery, it’s not about payoffs, it’s ENTIRELY about geopolitics.
Your way of life only exists because Iran, Russia, China, etc. aren’t in power. If you want to give up your way of life and prefer the way they do things, go ahead and move there. I, along with most other western people, would prefer if those countries fucked right off.
kid, you wouldn’t know what geopolitics was if it hit you upside the head.
you’re a fucking 4chan idiot who hides their racism and western chauvinism behind a thin veneer of supposed intellectualism. the problem is, your takes show you don’t know what you’re fucking talking about, and you’re just repeating shit you heard Grok say because you don’t have the mental capacity to come up with your own arguments.
just take the mask off and admit you’re a MAGA nazi, because at this point the rest of us already know everything you’re going to say because we’ve hard your drivel the last time some Trump-loving piece of shit wandered in off of Truth Social.
Ah right, a few thousand dollars is enough to buy the support of politicians across the entirely of Europe and North America.
That makes far more sense than a known proxy war between the west and Iran that’s been going on for 40 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Israel_proxy_conflict
You’re sticking your head in the sand, and I’m not even American let alone MAGA.
not even close to the amount of dark money bribes groups like AIPAC have funneled into US politicians pockets in the last year alone. just in the 2025–2026 election cycle, AIPAC gave $28 million to members of Congress. that’s just one fucking year. you would know this if you weren’t totally uneducated on the topic you’re speaking about.
you expect to be taken seriously when you don’t even know the well-documented and public information available to anyone with access to the internet. this isn’t even the shit they hide, this is the publicly disclosed campaign contributions.
you’re a fucking joke, and you’re embarrassing yourself, MAGA.
$28 million dollars is a tiny fucking amount of money in terms of lobbying.
It’s also only about $50,000 per congress member.
For that same cycle, it was reported that the 117 Senate candidates received about 1.5 million dollars on average, and the entirety of congress races received something like $700 million. So AIPAC was less than 4% of all money.
Assuming that number is actually amounts given to congress, and not just lobbying or PAC stuff which has separate much higher totals.
Some individual races were in the 10s of millions.
Lobbying was a $5 Billion dollar industry in 2025.
How can you expect to be taken seriously when the amounts they’re spending are so small? How can these people be so completely bought by such tiny amounts? It entirely defies any sort of reason, especially given that both parties support Israel so they would have to spread it over EVERYONE for it to be effective.