WHO warned that the reported number of cases and deaths do not reflect the true numbers. Read more at straitstimes.com.

WHO warned that the reported number of cases and deaths do not reflect the true numbers. Read more at straitstimes.com.

  • Tavarin
    1·
    10 months ago

    …because you jumped into my notifications defending mass death

    Because you said something stupid and incorrect. Don’t want people in your notifications, don’t post on social media.

    You made a false statement. Two weeks would not have stopped us being in “this mess”

    And in order to actually eliminate covid and get rid of “this mess,” you would need an incredible amount of mass death, killing anyone and anything that might have it in order to stop it.

    I’m not defending mass death, I’m defending reality.

    You keep saying it’s easy to eliminate an airborne illness, so why haven’t we ever managed to do it?

    I want you to expand on the logistics of what you’ve suggested. How do we actually eliminate a disease like covid and get out of “this mess”? With actual logistics, not just hand wavy “national guard…” What is actually needed, and how do we do it? It’s apparently easy according to you, just two weeks and it’s done. So how do we do it?

    • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
      11·
      10 months ago

      I didn’t even read what you typed here.

      Guessing it’s more of you going on about how things are “impossible” when really they’re just things capitalists don’t want to do.

      You are tiring.

      • Tavarin
        1·
        10 months ago

        Explain the logistics of your solution. How could we have stopped covid, with real world logistics?

        • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
          11·
          10 months ago

          By “real world” do you mean capitalist?

          Are you just gonna complain, ignore, deflect when the answer involves seizing private property?

          I also question how deep you demand I pen this logistical plan you aren’t going to read any more than I read your last post.

          Not doing it, but like do you expect me to schedule each truck driver’s shift?
          Because Terry isn’t sure when his baby’s due and I still need to inquire about the hazmat certification Ron went out for Thursday last.

          • Tavarin
            1·
            10 months ago

            No, by real world I mean one in which billions of humans and trillions of animals live, and which has limited resources that still require labour to extract and process. That real world.

            Assume pure socialism or communism in every country for your plan for all I care, the issue isn’t the economic system.

            I’ve been reading your posts, and have pointed out flaws and holes in your plan you have failed to patch. Instead you just deflect, and change the subject or move the goalposts.

            And you still haven’t even gone into any detail. You want a full lockdown enforced by hazmat suite wearing national guardsmen. Okay, who is making the suits, because they won;t just magically appear. How do you keep the people making the suits from spreading covid?

            Covid spreads between condo and apartment units through ventilation. you suggest HVAC upgrades installed by gun totting hazmat suit wearing guards. Where are the HVAC systems coming from? We don’t just have billions lying around. Where are the technicians coming from? We need a lot of HVAC technicians to do the installations in the billions of homes worldwide.

            I’m not asking for a day to day schedule, just some simple logistics for how you plan on making and distributing billions of pieces of specialized equipment, all while maintaining a tight lockdown.

              • Tavarin
                1·
                10 months ago

                You can’t even defend your side of the debate. I’m asking you to explain the simplest logistics of what you suggest, and you won’t even try. When will you understand that means your argument is wrong?

                • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
                  11·
                  10 months ago

                  This isn’t a debate.

                  This is you being an asshole and trying to justify the mass death that resulted from the global covid response as impossible to avoid when it was very possible to avoid.

                  You should be less worried about replying to me and more worried about earning your Shut The Fuck Up degree.
                  You got a D- on your last assignment, recall?

                  • Tavarin
                    1·
                    10 months ago

                    Sure, because you refuse to engage.

                    I gave you reasons why a 2 week hard lockdown wouldn’t have worked to solve covid. You gave a new scenario where we needed a longer lockdown and rigorous testing. I pointed out flaws in that plan, and you then started insulting me instead of actually addressing those flaws.

                    Why won’t you answer the logistics questions of how your plan to lockdown the whole world and test every person and animal on it at gunpoint would work?