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    Whataboutism. Whatever you say doesn’t matter to the people Hamas is oppressing.

    And really how has the violence of Hamas benefited the Palestinian people? Like at all?

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      Whataboutism.

      The post is about the hypocrisy of Liberal Zionists. If anything is a whataboutism, it’s dismissing that by pointing out the (irrelevant) issue of Hamas’ atrocities.

      Whatever you say doesn’t matter to the people Hamas IOF is oppressing.

      Fixed it for you again.

      And really how has the violence of Hamas benefited the Palestinian people? Like at all?

      Again, this isn’t about whether or not the actions of Hamas are justified or effective. It’s about Liberal hypocrisy.

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        So “liberal hypocrisy” is worse than torturing people?

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            I’m supposed to ignore the fact that Hamas tortures people? I’m supposed to ignore the fact that Hamas has objectively made things horrible for the Palestinian people?

            While you make jokes and memes, while Palestinians in the parts of Gaza Hamas still controls are being tortured. You don’t care about Palestinians, you only care about conforming to meme culture.

            • Nobody said Hamas was perfect. But dont forget the main reason Hamas is classified by the west as a terrorist organisation is because that’s how Israel likes it. That’s why they installed them into power in the first place. It gives them carte blanche to murder the fuck out of them, while western allies turn a blind eye to the killing of more terroristsbrown people. If you think of Hamas as freedom fighters against a genocidal colonial occupier then things really start to take on a different perspective.

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              I’m supposed to ignore the fact that Hamas tortures people? I’m supposed to ignore the fact that Hamas has objectively made things horrible for the Palestinian people?

              Nope.

              You’re not supposed to make every criticism of Liberal Zionists about how “Hamas is bad, mmkay?” either, though. That’s known as whataboutism and deflection.

              While you make jokes and memes, while Palestinians in the parts of Gaza Hamas still controls are being tortured.

              Mostly by the fascist apartheid regime whose supporters I’m making fun of, though.

              You don’t care about Palestinians, you only care about conforming to meme culture.

              What kind of baseless nonsense is that?

              Methinks the Zionist apologist protests too much 🙄

              Fun fact: “meme culture” has more sympathy for Palestinians (including even Hamas) than the fascist occupation forces because HUMANS do in general.

              You don’t have to “conform to meme culture” to ridicule Liberal Zionists, you just need a tiny smidgeon of awareness of what’s happening in occupied Palestine and the most infinitesimal understanding of scale and balance of power.