It can’t do the literal entire thing an operating system is supposed to do: manage applications and their resulting windows, in a sensible way.

I want to know what application is running.

Sure it’s in the dock!

I want to find a specific application window.

Go fuck yourself right to hell.

Wait, the taskbar doesn’t show the running windows, like it does on every other OS? It’s at least discrete right?

It discretely takes up 1.5cm of the bottom of the screen at all times. It’s so discrete it doesn’t even need to use the corners.

Uh, alright, well that’s all the system space you need right?

Yeah of course just that bottom inch or so … And a top of screen system level menu bar to display what windows does in the bottom corners.

/sigh/ ok, fine, I just want to be able to full screen a window and still see what else is open.

Burn in hell and die.

I want to be able to easily switch left and right between open windows.

Go full screen or I will shoot you.

I want to move an open window into the other monitor.

You can’t because you’re full screen dumbass.

I want to let a window present a popup like they normally do.

You can’t because youre full screen dumbass. Why would you be full screen?

I want an application like Slack to be able to popup and remove notifications when is appropriate.

Choose to have every single notification persists on screen until you manually remove it, or miss all your notifications.

Can’t we trouble you for something in between, where we trust an application and let it manage them in a way that makes sense based on their context?

You can trouble me for something in between these cheeks, shit stain.

Like honestly, I fucking hate what an advertising and AI filled mess Windows is, but it can actually manage your windows and virtual desktops in a way that makes a modicum of sense.

It feels like a single Apple product manager decided that the way that they use their computer (a single application at a time, no windows to manage) is the only way anyone does, so who cares if we implement a nonsensical full screen paradigm, it makes one tiny niche edge case slightly simpler.

  • masterspaceOPEnglish
    21·
    1 day ago

    Second, asking how many windows I have open is dumb since you are asking for a static number for something that changes day to day. If I say 6, you say 7. If I say 11, you say a billion. You aren’t looking for a real answer to consider, you are looking from something to lie about.

    It’s not a dick measuring contest, I’m just genuinely curious how someone who actually uses a lot of windows manages, or whether I’m talking to a university student writing an essay.

    I will say I have 3 browsers with multiple windows and tabs open across 3 screens, vscode, terminal, 2 virtual machines in full screen a simple swipe reveals, pages and numbers, TextEdit as a scratchpad for notes, a few finder windows, messages, discord, mail, and probably a few other things.

    So how do you quickly switch to a different instance of the same browser, on the same monitor?

    First, windows 11 has objectively the worst desktop GUI. It’s a downgrade from its predecessor and so bad literally everyone beats it now. It’s not better, it’s familiar.

    Oh its just “bad”? I listed numerous basic failings of MacOS, including specific window management failings and their patronizingly useless notification system. How about you do better than “bad”?

    • potpotato@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      23 hours ago

      “It’s not a dick measuring contest,” but also: How many windows you have open? Bro, how many?!

      Really my biggest gripe with iOS/MacOS is that a lot of functionality is designed for an apparent fluidity rather than intuition — I find you often have to be taught how to do the things you are complaining about.

      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        11 hours ago

        Until recently I felt Apple UI were pretty intuitive actually.

        IpadOS is an abomination unto the lord though.

    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      21 hours ago

      Four finger swipe up, cmd tab, right click the dock icon and all the windows for that app show in the list, enable app expose and swipe down with however many figure you set that to…

      There’s lots of ways to do this.