• Archangel1313
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    8 days ago

    I think you’re misunderstanding those sentiments. A lot of people living in Easter Ukraine ARE ethnic Russians. That’s why they see themselves as Russian. Because they are not ethnic Ukrainians.

    That’s literally how settler colonialism works. You occupy the land, and claim it as your own.

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      8 days ago

      Well, yes, they are ethnic Russians. I didn’t mean to say that they were Ukrainians that saw themselves as Russian, but residents of Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine was historically Russian, and only given to Ukraine in the 20th century, so it’s a bit messy.

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        8 days ago

        It isn’t “messy” at all. When the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine declared its independence, and the newly formed Russian Federation agreed to the new borders.

        Russia no longer has any right to that territory, no matter how many ethnic Russians still live there.

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          8 days ago

          Except the west coup’d Kiev and installed Banderites that caused Donetsk and Luhansk to secede, and ask Russia for support.

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            8 days ago

            No. They didn’t. Students in Ukraine organized those protests. And it was Russian soldiers that started the fighting in the East.