No sucsefull revolution has ever had the participation of “everyone”. Americans are slow to react but societal momentum is shifting as people wake up and get angrier and more frightened I belive this because I have to.
To be clear, we are talking about the posters… that anger no one. In fact, they probably give a false sense of security or success. Today we are one step closer to fascism, which means each action so far has failed. I don’t mean we should stop, but I do mean we need to step it up a bit.
History has nothing to do with today. Just because there are similar events does not mean the same solution will solve the problem. Clearly, people can learn from their past mistakes—and the Nazis have learned (in a bad way).
Considering historically how angry Americans can get, if anything the take over will drive the anger to new heights and bring their plan screeching to a halt.
Tell me how much Americans have been upset with America within the last 100 years? What have they done to the government? some harsh language and the occasional nut job bomber?
We are historically pussy-ass-bitches on our own turf.
If there’s any silver lining to this authoritarian power grab, it’s that people are finally waking the fuck up and getting really mad. Not everyone, mind you. But hopefully many more than historically, and hopefully enough who will take action.
Barely anyone is mad. He was right that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave. American politicians are dismantling the entire country and its business as usual.
Perhaps a generation or two from now will have people with balls.
Okay, let’s do this. On Sunday I will get back to you. Let’s choose right now what will make you wrong.
I say, there will be a lot of coverage in the news, a lot of people will be talking, but absolutely no events will have happened to move anything forward measurably.
In the week to follow, everything will return to about where it is now.
If you’re wrong—you apologize and admit I’m right that peaceful protesting doesn’t work in 2025+. If I’m wrong, I’ll change my perspective of peaceful protesting and encourage it from now on… and apologize for disbelieving it.
I was specifically responding to your claim that “Barely anyone is mad.” I think the protests will demonstrate that, in fact, very many people are actually quite mad.
As to your specious point about protests not accomplishing anything towards toppling the authoritarian regime, I honestly don’t think there’s anything I can say after the protests that would could convince you they were worth it. Your mind is already made up. Until the authoritarian regime falls as a result of resistance activities building over the course of months or years, you won’t be satisfied. (And even then, I suspect you really won’t be satisfied because, based on your words here, you actually support the authoritarians.)
No sucsefull revolution has ever had the participation of “everyone”. Americans are slow to react but societal momentum is shifting as people wake up and get angrier and more frightened I belive this because I have to.
Unfortunately, their plan is to take over before enough people get angry enough to do anything about it.
And that’s why acts like the one we’re discussing – intended to get people angrier faster – are so important.
To be clear, we are talking about the posters… that anger no one. In fact, they probably give a false sense of security or success. Today we are one step closer to fascism, which means each action so far has failed. I don’t mean we should stop, but I do mean we need to step it up a bit.
I see this comment has 2 points… I hope anyone reading this understands that what this person is saying is complete and utter horseshit.
Read some history yourself, don’t listen to this clown.
History has nothing to do with today. Just because there are similar events does not mean the same solution will solve the problem. Clearly, people can learn from their past mistakes—and the Nazis have learned (in a bad way).
Yeah dude. Good point.
Considering historically how angry Americans can get, if anything the take over will drive the anger to new heights and bring their plan screeching to a halt.
Tell me how much Americans have been upset with America within the last 100 years? What have they done to the government? some harsh language and the occasional nut job bomber?
We are historically pussy-ass-bitches on our own turf.
If there’s any silver lining to this authoritarian power grab, it’s that people are finally waking the fuck up and getting really mad. Not everyone, mind you. But hopefully many more than historically, and hopefully enough who will take action.
Barely anyone is mad. He was right that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave. American politicians are dismantling the entire country and its business as usual.
Perhaps a generation or two from now will have people with balls.
Get back to me after the protests on Saturday.
Okay, let’s do this. On Sunday I will get back to you. Let’s choose right now what will make you wrong.
I say, there will be a lot of coverage in the news, a lot of people will be talking, but absolutely no events will have happened to move anything forward measurably.
In the week to follow, everything will return to about where it is now.
If you’re wrong—you apologize and admit I’m right that peaceful protesting doesn’t work in 2025+. If I’m wrong, I’ll change my perspective of peaceful protesting and encourage it from now on… and apologize for disbelieving it.
Does that seem like an acceptable deal/bet?
Nope.
I was specifically responding to your claim that “Barely anyone is mad.” I think the protests will demonstrate that, in fact, very many people are actually quite mad.
As to your specious point about protests not accomplishing anything towards toppling the authoritarian regime, I honestly don’t think there’s anything I can say after the protests that would could convince you they were worth it. Your mind is already made up. Until the authoritarian regime falls as a result of resistance activities building over the course of months or years, you won’t be satisfied. (And even then, I suspect you really won’t be satisfied because, based on your words here, you actually support the authoritarians.)