Nah these are basic facts of the situation that you’d know if you spent some time actually learning about the subject instead of making. clown of yourself online.
The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf
All these things translate into tangible freedoms allowing people to live their lives to the fullest. Freedom can be seen as the measure of personal agency an individual enjoys within the framework of society. A good measure of whether people genuinely feel free is to look at what people of the country have to say on the subject. Even as mainstream western media openly admits, people in China overwhelmingly see their system as being democratic, and the government enjoys broad public trust and support.
What’s really ironic is that if anybody else would’ve posted articles from nytimes or forbes it would be “western propaganda”. But, these particular articles support his narrative so these are OK
“they are using the sources I uncritically accept when propagandizing to show me that even if I take them at face value, I believe in false stuff, isn’t that ironic?” How do you not see the point?
It’s really easy to find sources with primary evidence in non western media, but you’d go “propaganda!!” so we show you the only sources that you will accept and it’s “lol but you said it was propaganda, so it’s immediately invalid for you”. Not even a child is that unserious.
It’s easier talking sense into a dog than western libs I stg.
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What? That’s not how indisputable works.
Also, what sample size, you’ve never been to those places so your sample size is zero.
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I met a lady once who said she loved everyone and everything, so she obviously thought America & China are great.
Your results are false.
Interesting. She didn’t do a survey though.
Sounding pretty fuckin’ American there, buddy
why should anybody care where you’ll go
I do, I’ve met enough Klanadians for a lifetime
Ha
They shouldn’t, but I do.
And China and America are both shitty places.
your uninformed opinion can be safely discarded
That’s just like, your opinion man.
Nah these are basic facts of the situation that you’d know if you spent some time actually learning about the subject instead of making. clown of yourself online.
90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/03/30/how-people-in-china-afford-their-outrageously-expensive-homes
The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf
From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China’s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4
In fact, people in China enjoy high levels of social mobility in general https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-social-mobility.html
Student debt in China is virtually non-existent because education is not run for profit. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jlim/2016/08/29/why-china-doesnt-have-a-student-debt-problem/
China massively invests in public infrastructure. They used more concrete in 3 years than US in all of 20th century https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2014/12/05/china-used-more-concrete-in-3-years-than-the-u-s-used-in-the-entire-20th-century-infographic/
China also built 27,000km of high speed rail in a decade https://www.railjournal.com/passenger/high-speed/ten-years-27000km-china-celebrates-a-decade-of-high-speed/
All these things translate into tangible freedoms allowing people to live their lives to the fullest. Freedom can be seen as the measure of personal agency an individual enjoys within the framework of society. A good measure of whether people genuinely feel free is to look at what people of the country have to say on the subject. Even as mainstream western media openly admits, people in China overwhelmingly see their system as being democratic, and the government enjoys broad public trust and support.
What about the Uyghurs? Do they get to enjoy all this?
And yes I am absolutely clowning on you to see how long it would take to get a canned response like this one.
What’s really ironic is that if anybody else would’ve posted articles from nytimes or forbes it would be “western propaganda”. But, these particular articles support his narrative so these are OK
“they are using the sources I uncritically accept when propagandizing to show me that even if I take them at face value, I believe in false stuff, isn’t that ironic?” How do you not see the point?
It’s really easy to find sources with primary evidence in non western media, but you’d go “propaganda!!” so we show you the only sources that you will accept and it’s “lol but you said it was propaganda, so it’s immediately invalid for you”. Not even a child is that unserious.
It’s easier talking sense into a dog than western libs I stg.
What about the Uyghurs? Do they get to enjoy all this?
And yes I am absolutely clowning on you to see how long it would take to get a canned response like this one.
What about the Uyghurs? Do they get to enjoy all this?
And yes I am absolutely clowning on you to see how long it would take to get a canned response like this one.