I know what I want to draw, but there’s something missing between that idea and the paper. I can imagine what I want it to look like, in a way, but only as a vague reification of a concept, not as something made of lines and colors, and it’s useless for trying to get it down on paper. I inevitably end up with something so far from my original idea that it’s massively discouraging.
I expect that I’d develop a better eye for this sort of thing if I was to practice it for years, but it’s very difficult to feel motivated to do that when you can’t produce anything remotely like what you were going for.
There are a million free courses to guide your learning and teach you about things like forms and perspective to capture what you want. Unless you have 0 free time whatsoever, anyone, and I do mean anyone, can make art.
“innate talent” is a pervasive idea that undercuts years of work and practice. art is HARD and most people just don’t find the doing part to be fulfilling.
everyone wants to make a masterpiece, but no one is born with some kinda artist-gene that gives them the ability to do so as if by magic. outside of savants at least, but that’s a whole other thing lmao
Yes, talent is oversold and used as an excuse to often HOWEVER there ARE differences in people’s skill level and rate of learning. Especially if learning disabilities are involved.
I really really wanna draw regularly. And i practice regularly have for years. Ive gotten much better than couple years ago me but overall my art still sucks (others confirm not just the usual artist hates own work) and it’s mainly because i have a learning disability that affects my spacial reasoning and ability to visualize shapes.
This may come as a surprise to some people but that makes drawing very difficult, i can’t get proportions correct and I struggle to find shapes. My best drawings are ones that i practically traced the initial outline to get the shapes. AI generated art absolutely makes getting an idea out of my head more accessible. And i can then trace the outline of the ai art and draw the rest myself.
I know people hate it but just blindly saying “anyone can draw just do it bro” is basically just as worthless of an argument that ignores reality
this too, it’s a lot like singing in that way. anyone can train their vocal control, but some folks just will have a much harder time with it for all sorts of reasons they can’t control. both sides of that “only some people can do it/anyone can do it” coin can be damaging for their own reasons.
i think it’s really important to talk about these things in a frank way, thank you for contributing to the discussion ^^
I’m an artist with aphantasia. You just might need to learn from someone that thinks like you do, or try different styles of art. There are so many disabled artists making cool stuff, and a learning disability is a barrier, but it can be overcome. I cannot see images in my head whatsoever. No mental picture, no visual memory. I make art just fine, it just took me a little longer to learn what works for me. The important part is that I had a desire to learn and overcome my difficulties, and didn’t let them stop me from trying. Tracing AI art will not teach you the theory or techniques you could learn from another artist, and those are what you need to improve.
Oh yeah, I forgot everyone is born with inmate talent, time and privilege.
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I know what I want to draw, but there’s something missing between that idea and the paper. I can imagine what I want it to look like, in a way, but only as a vague reification of a concept, not as something made of lines and colors, and it’s useless for trying to get it down on paper. I inevitably end up with something so far from my original idea that it’s massively discouraging.
I expect that I’d develop a better eye for this sort of thing if I was to practice it for years, but it’s very difficult to feel motivated to do that when you can’t produce anything remotely like what you were going for.
There are a million free courses to guide your learning and teach you about things like forms and perspective to capture what you want. Unless you have 0 free time whatsoever, anyone, and I do mean anyone, can make art.
If you have people that talk like this around you as an artist I think you need to find different people to be around that is the real take away here.
Also, I have genuinely never in my 29 years of life heard people say anything like this. So this post can kind of fuck off.
“Never happened to me, must not be real.”
Look at the comment they are replying to.
“innate talent” is a pervasive idea that undercuts years of work and practice. art is HARD and most people just don’t find the doing part to be fulfilling.
everyone wants to make a masterpiece, but no one is born with some kinda artist-gene that gives them the ability to do so as if by magic. outside of savants at least, but that’s a whole other thing lmao
Yes, talent is oversold and used as an excuse to often HOWEVER there ARE differences in people’s skill level and rate of learning. Especially if learning disabilities are involved.
I really really wanna draw regularly. And i practice regularly have for years. Ive gotten much better than couple years ago me but overall my art still sucks (others confirm not just the usual artist hates own work) and it’s mainly because i have a learning disability that affects my spacial reasoning and ability to visualize shapes.
This may come as a surprise to some people but that makes drawing very difficult, i can’t get proportions correct and I struggle to find shapes. My best drawings are ones that i practically traced the initial outline to get the shapes. AI generated art absolutely makes getting an idea out of my head more accessible. And i can then trace the outline of the ai art and draw the rest myself.
I know people hate it but just blindly saying “anyone can draw just do it bro” is basically just as worthless of an argument that ignores reality
this too, it’s a lot like singing in that way. anyone can train their vocal control, but some folks just will have a much harder time with it for all sorts of reasons they can’t control. both sides of that “only some people can do it/anyone can do it” coin can be damaging for their own reasons.
i think it’s really important to talk about these things in a frank way, thank you for contributing to the discussion ^^
I’m an artist with aphantasia. You just might need to learn from someone that thinks like you do, or try different styles of art. There are so many disabled artists making cool stuff, and a learning disability is a barrier, but it can be overcome. I cannot see images in my head whatsoever. No mental picture, no visual memory. I make art just fine, it just took me a little longer to learn what works for me. The important part is that I had a desire to learn and overcome my difficulties, and didn’t let them stop me from trying. Tracing AI art will not teach you the theory or techniques you could learn from another artist, and those are what you need to improve.
To be blunt, I think the powers behind project 2025 do believe the common man has inmate talent #modernamericanslavery
… but I suspect you meant “innate” talent
I forgot every artist had all of those things in spades
wrong, you’re just too much of a coward to make shitty art and say it’s yours. it’s a hurdle that all of us had to get over