cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29061644
We’ve done it, we got rid of another soulless right wing politician!
Peter Dutton first made his party lose this election and now also lost his own seat much like Pierre Pullover
We’ve still got a government that green-lit new coal power plants in it’s last term, screwed over the Aboriginal community with a poorly run referendum, and still doesn’t give a shit about climate change, but baby steps hey.
The Canadian cons didn’t actually boot Polievre, instead they’re giving him an easy to win riding and a brand new seat in parliament so he can stay on. Which probably means he’ll stick around and win the next election. I hate it.
Edit: autocorrect
I dunno, I’d like to try to be hopeful. The NDP has a real shot to completely rebrand and come back swinging. Convince Charlie Angus to come out of retirement and lead the party, and spend the next however-long-this-term-lasts rebuilding support. I can’t think of a better outcome than having to Sophie’s Choice between Carney and Angus. Imagine having to choose between 2 legitimately good party leaders.
The good news is that the riding he has to run in is incredibly rural. He’s going to hate it.
Poilievre is a city boy. He grew up in the Calgary suburbs. Then he moved to Ottawa to become an MP. The only job he’s ever had involving physical exertion is when he was a paperboy as a kid. Now he’s going to have to spend some time in his new riding surrounded by farmers. The biggest “city” there has a population under 20k. Everything else is towns, villages and hamlets. Assuming he buys a house in Camrose, if he wants Thai food, he’ll have to drive over an hour to get to Edmonton.
Maybe because the conservatives have such an overwhelming majority in Battle River - Crowfoot, they won’t care that he’s a carpetbagger and he won’t have to put much effort in there. But, I think eventually he’ll have to spend some time in his riding, and it will be a major culture clash.
A lot of farmers are just rich guys, basically, but smug on top of it because of the tough image they have. The ones that own land aren’t the ones that do the work, and the work that people who aren’t immigrants do tends to be the sitting in a cab kind. There’s not a lot of people between 20 and 45 here in rural Alberta anyway. The Hutterites are an obvious exception, but they don’t vote anyway.
From what I’ve seen they really liked Kurek, are mad Poilievre is an outsider, and doubly mad because he’s an Ontario city type, but it’s nothing a firm handshake and some rabble-rousing won’t smooth over. He might get only 70%
I said it a couple days ago that this election reminded me of our 2020 election and what followed. Center-right liberals are only good at driving people away since all they do is tell you what you want to hear and then go behind your back and do the exact opposite. It’s just diet Republicanism here in the US and sounds like it’s very similar abroad. Nobody likes diet Republicanism.
Ya, and also the conservatives lost by 1% of the popular vote, and had excellent numbers overall. I really wish we kicked them to the curb, but that’s hardly the case. Sounds like Australia did a much better job.
That’s exactly what makes me believe they will win next time with little effort. Unless the LPC delivers big, people are not going to vote “anything but conservative” again.
If Carney is smart, he actually pushes for proportional representation. It would save the liberals next election, all the smaller parties would be on board, and even if he gets ousted after, he would have secured his place in the history books (not sure how susceptible he is to appeals to his vanity…)
Wait what? Source please
It’s about 3 seconds of googling to find out that there will be byelection in Battle River-Crowfoot, which went 81.8% in favour of the Conservative candidate. Polievre will run there, get swept in, and pretend that he represents Canadians.
Telling people to google stuff is so fcking reddit mate.
Thanks for providing context.
Learn to search shit your self, or get off the internet.
No one owes you anything.
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The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. Whether or not something is easily confirmable
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then it should have been very easy for you to post a source instead of arguing about it
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Yes, but if we all did that there’d be no conversation here.
I don’t think a comment asking for a source is very interesting conversation.
I don’t think a comment stating that you don’t think a comment asking for a source is very interesting conversation is very interesting conversation, yet here we are.
Only if you respond with a link and no explanation.
What would you prefer? No sources? Talking only about insubstantial things that don’t need them? Obviously you’re here to talk about something.
For someone to take 3 seconds to Google something before asking for a source. Why is that so controversial?
Not op but https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-to-run-in-alberta-byelection-1.7525104
Basically he asked a con in the highest % of con votes to step down to trigger a by-election. It’s an area where the other parties don’t even campaign, they just hand it to the cons.
There are already talks of “liberals rigged the election” so that he can deflect and not make it a personal failing that he lost a riding that’s historically always been conservative and lost a 25 point lead in the polls in a few months.
Imagine running a campaign so terrible that you lose your own riding, then running off to a province on the other side of the country to weasel your way back in.
What even is the point of “representing your district” if they could just nominate a random person from across the country that never before stepped foot in that district?
Welcome to Canadian Parliamentary politics, where every good step forward has an equal and opposite step backwards.
While I still prefer it to the alternative system to the south; where it’s all bad steps. I’d be lying if I said our own system was perfect by any means.
Carney could deny the by-election or at least delay it, but that’d cause conservative tears so he’s avoiding the drama.
Oh god… We had Jacinta Pryce (extreme right winger in Oz) try the same here tonight. How do they expect this to work? I suppose because it worked for Diaper Don…
Sorry, didn’t check back until now, but looks like it got sourced in the meantime.
Yeah. I was really looking forward to not worrying about the CBC being shuttered. No such luck.