Tesla has accused the Canadian government of unlawfully freezing more than $43 million in electric vehicle rebate payments and threatened legal action if the payments are not resumed “immediately.”
Like, fuck Tesla and Musk in particular, but they paid out the rebates to the customers as they bought vehicles over the year, and put all the rebate requests in on their behalf just before the deadline. This wasn’t fraud in any concievable manner.
Edit: holee fuk, people are big mad at not blindly condemning one company that does the same thing all the other dealerships do. I look forward to Tesla going tits up, but this is a nothingburger.
Not necessarily, dealerships could take care of it and just give it to the customers in the meantime, a bit like a 0% loan that is being refunded by the government. That’s how pretty much all federal rebates for EV cars were handled because it’s a much less painful experience for the consumers to not have to deal with the paperwork and waiting for the money.
No it’s not, it’s exactly how all dealerships handled the federal rebate, the only weird thing is Tesla not claiming them regularly (from what they’re saying) hence the investigation, but otherwise it’s perfectly normal and legal that the dealerships were taking care of the trouble for their clients.
Down vote all you want, it was still the way it was done and is why all other dealerships were pissed when they couldn’t submit their paperwork for their recent sales because Tesla submitted enough to empty the pot.
When the news came out all the other dealers were complaining that they couldn’t submit the paperwork for the rebate.
It’s not the clients that pay the bill and then get a cheque back, it’s included on their bill when they purchase the car and in the loan they take if they need one.
It’s not Tesla pretending to have purchased cars and submitting the paperwork under false client names, it’s them submitting the paperwork for cars they (allegedly) sold to get the refund for the rebate they (allegedly) passed on to the client. As if they had accumulated the paperwork for months without submitting it to the government to get the refund they’re owed for a rebate they gave their clients.
If that’s what happened, they should be able to prove that and the money will go to them. But I’ve certainly heard stories, and I look forward to the results of an investigation.
Please explain how that makes sense: customer buys car, Tesla gives them rebate, Tesla doesn’t collect rebate for months and just sits there with no money. Then tesla decides to call in rebates all at once when it’s announced that they run out?
Lol, they are under investigation for fraud because of this.
Like, fuck Tesla and Musk in particular, but they paid out the rebates to the customers as they bought vehicles over the year, and put all the rebate requests in on their behalf just before the deadline. This wasn’t fraud in any concievable manner.
Edit: holee fuk, people are big mad at not blindly condemning one company that does the same thing all the other dealerships do. I look forward to Tesla going tits up, but this is a nothingburger.
They’re under investigation because it is believed they boosted sales in their books to get the rebates for cars that were not actually sold…
That sounds like a fraud scheme.
Considering Tesla did not asked for the rebates themselves, but it was something the buyers had to do, I think it’s fraud.
Not necessarily, dealerships could take care of it and just give it to the customers in the meantime, a bit like a 0% loan that is being refunded by the government. That’s how pretty much all federal rebates for EV cars were handled because it’s a much less painful experience for the consumers to not have to deal with the paperwork and waiting for the money.
And that’s fraud. I think it’s exactly what they wanted, to ask for as many as they could so they could sell the cars for less than the competition.
No it’s not, it’s exactly how all dealerships handled the federal rebate, the only weird thing is Tesla not claiming them regularly (from what they’re saying) hence the investigation, but otherwise it’s perfectly normal and legal that the dealerships were taking care of the trouble for their clients.
Down vote all you want, it was still the way it was done and is why all other dealerships were pissed when they couldn’t submit their paperwork for their recent sales because Tesla submitted enough to empty the pot.
Could you show where other dealers have done this?
When the news came out all the other dealers were complaining that they couldn’t submit the paperwork for the rebate.
It’s not the clients that pay the bill and then get a cheque back, it’s included on their bill when they purchase the car and in the loan they take if they need one.
It’s not Tesla pretending to have purchased cars and submitting the paperwork under false client names, it’s them submitting the paperwork for cars they (allegedly) sold to get the refund for the rebate they (allegedly) passed on to the client. As if they had accumulated the paperwork for months without submitting it to the government to get the refund they’re owed for a rebate they gave their clients.
https://insideevs.com/news/752820/tesla-accused-of-gaming-rebates-canada/
If that’s what happened, they should be able to prove that and the money will go to them. But I’ve certainly heard stories, and I look forward to the results of an investigation.
Please explain how that makes sense: customer buys car, Tesla gives them rebate, Tesla doesn’t collect rebate for months and just sits there with no money. Then tesla decides to call in rebates all at once when it’s announced that they run out?
HR Block does taxes, rebates people immediately out of their pocket. Submits all refund requests at April 30, gets money back.
Paperwork often gets done in batches. Companies invoice at the end of month but pay their employees weekly or biweekly.
This isn’t nefarious, no matter how much you (and I) hate Tesla.
If they were doing this monthly, that assumes they were selling thousands of cars each month. That seems unlikely.
It was also one location. So did no other location do rebates?