• @Steeve
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    • @[email protected]
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      679 months ago

      Exactly, headline should be more like “Google executives want Google engineers to make ad-blocking (near) impossible”

      • oce 🐆
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        79 months ago

        Isn’t Google famous for giving a large amount of creative freedom to their engineers (and having a lot of dead published products as a result)? Also, Google engineers are not exactly stuck at their job with little hope of finding anything else to survive.

        • @[email protected]
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          89 months ago

          I believe that policy was reduced or removed many years ago. Around the time when all the cool new projects stopped, and Google scrubbed “don’t be evil” from their site and company philosophy.

      • peopleproblems
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        49 months ago

        Look dude, I hate advertising as much as anyone. I don’t want any TV and most streaming services have wedged in some form of advertising nowadays and I avoid all that.

        But equating engineers trying to solve a problem like engineers figuring out how to block ads isn’t really equivalent to murder.

        • @[email protected]
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          79 months ago

          People only get held accountable for their actions and choices when the consequences are equivalent to murder? Their bosses hold some of the blame, sure, but they are not blameless and pretending they are just enables shit like this to keep happening.

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        29 months ago

        They’re still bad people, but this kind of blame has to run uphill. The devs only have the option of quitting, not necessarily of not doing what they’re told.

        That being said, I bet there are some Very Good Boys who enthusiastically and proactively suggest some evil shit to the execs.

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    • J Lou
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      Doing what you’re told does not relieve you of responsibility for the results of your actions

    • @[email protected]
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      79 months ago

      The engineers are not blame free, and can do super shady shit too. For example, the issues with the WebHID “broswer” APIs.

    • @RagingNerdoholic
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      69 months ago

      Ah yes, because “just following orders” has worked out so well in the past.

      That’s right, I just godwin’d this bitch.

    • @[email protected]
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      49 months ago

      Because it is still unclear if this is an official project requested by Google or just some engineers working alone until Google adopts the project.

      • @[email protected]
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        309 months ago

        The chances that a swashbuckling crew of rogue engineers organized a secret skunkworks project to implement their heartfelt, idealistic vision of an adblocker free web are… low.

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          This is exactly something an engineer who works at Google would want to work on, finding new ways to enrich Google is literally their job and there would be great personal benefit from coming up with the best way to implement this DRM crap for profit

    • @[email protected]
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      19 months ago

      Software engineers have ethics classes, I’d imagine this would fall highly under unethical, just under building software for the military which google employees have protested in the past.

        • @[email protected]
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          49 months ago

          It was required for my degree, I’m sure it is required at more than just my university lol

            • @[email protected]
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              29 months ago

              Sure, its not taught everywhere, it is still something discussed among peers and taught at some institutions. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be seeing engineers doing walkouts and protesting companies decisions.

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              are you seriously advocating for immoral choices right now? what the fuck is even the point of your comment except to disagree with no more information? bruh go hit a punching bag or some shit, then hop back online . or go to reddit because you will love it over there

          • @[email protected]
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            69 months ago

            Not my university. Outside of the engineering classes and prequisites for engineering classes, we only had to take rhetoric and a foreign language.

            • @[email protected]
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              69 months ago

              That’s disappointing to hear. Talked about ethics throughout my courses and one was half the class. Hopefully more professors and instructions sprinkle it in there at least.

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        • @[email protected]
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          139 months ago

          Sure it won’t kill people like programming drones, but it is still unethical and would affect ~5 billion people negatively.

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            • @[email protected]
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              79 months ago
              1. It’s not just ad blockers that is m issue with this. Read Mozilla’s post for a bunch of valid concerns.
              2. If you read my reply there is a comma prior to the just which makes a pause if it makes it better you could read it as [it’s] just under… Either way I am not trying to make the wide gape you are referring to, I was simply stating it as a matter of fact more ethical then programming for military use but still unethical.