• Tlaloc_Temporal
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    23 days ago

    Expatriation is a bit extreme, especially when we don’t even have a voting holiday. I agree with a strong incentive though, perhaps a 1-3% tax rebate?

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      23 days ago

      Nope. I am serious. We have to literally do one thing as citizens and that is vote. If one isn’t willing to do that one doesn’t get the benefits of a democracy.

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        23 days ago

        You aren’t serious. How tf are you going to “expatriate” someone? Put them in a rowboat and tow them into international waters?

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          22 days ago

          Trumps doing it, you make a monetary deal with a prison elsewhere and fly people there

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          23 days ago

          You act like I have the power to do anything at all. Chill out. I don’t care how it would be done I think that’s how it should be because it is that easy and important to vote.

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              22 days ago

              I was thinking something cheaper and easier like a good old fashioned ice float but its called a brainstorm for a reason.

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        23 days ago

        I could see this if every opportunity was made to allow it.

        Loosing citizenship due to a debilitating illness is completely unacceptable for example.

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          23 days ago

          It is weird how humans immediately try to find exceptions to a rule without ever discussing its full implementation in the first place.

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            23 days ago

            It’s full implementation is unacceptable as a hard rule. I agree with doing a lot to ensure everyone votes, but removing rights for reasons beyond one’s control is the opposite of helpful.

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              23 days ago

              No one said rights would be removed for reasons beyond control. Quit being ridiculous, shit isn’t real.

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                23 days ago

                Expatriation means losing basically every right in the charter, and is politically equivalent to execution. This reason (failing to vote) is also heavily biased towards people with less control over their lives, and disrupting someone from voting could be used as a weapon.

                I can see punishments for failing to vote, but such an extreme response should be reserved for those who explicitly choose not to vote, and such a system would need a rigorous judgment to act on.

                Having such a thin line between citizenship and expatriation is too dangerous. On one hand, choosing not to vote may be considered a serious enough act, but on the other hand there are dozens of reasons a vote can fail to be cast, and they would all need to be addressed before something as serious as expatriation is considered as a punishment.

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                  22 days ago

                  I know what expatriation means, hence why it is a part of my idea. Frankly, if one doesn’t have a really good reason not to vote I don’t care how extreme the punishment is.

                  As I said in another comment cheap and easy like a good old fashioned ice float for being too lazy to do the one thing required of you in a democracy. If you believe that means people physically, or mentally, incapable of being able to do that would be expatriated you need to touch grass because we have numerous laws with exceptions. Welcome to Canada.