• BCsven
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    16 days ago

    It’s a meme targeting the incel belief system, thus the clown makeup

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        16 days ago

        Is the lonely man painting his clown life in each step? No. He is just lonely as he hasn’t done the first 3 steps

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            15 days ago

            It is how he got there, that is the premise of the clown painting meme

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              15 days ago

              Exactly my point, the meme insinuates that the only way men become lonely is that they hate women, which is not true and is a harmful generalisation.

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                15 days ago

                I don’t see it that way, to me it is showing how a certain type of man becomes lonely. The other type would be 1. small social circle (real or interwebs) 2. Lonely. And no face painting, because he’s not a clown, he just hasn’t met a match

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                  14 days ago

                  That is right, but put yourself in the shoes of that other man, and ask yourself how he would feel on seeing this meme. Contrast it with memes about “only those Black people, not the good ones”.

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                    14 days ago

                    The other dude just being lonely would realize that he didn’t think women just did dishes, and hasn’t turned all his hate of women inward. Some people are lonely and have a functioning logic system. Not to say everyone, there are always people susceptible to radicalization.

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      15 days ago

      Except it makes the link with loneliness, which has nothing to do with incels. By doing so, this kind of post litteraly says that alllonely men are like the worst incels.

      It is insulting. And it is directly feeding the narrative of the fascists that says that feminists are mere anti-men instead of pro-equality.

      This même is a blend of arrogance, ignorance, disdain and malice. Even the fascist are rarely doing so bad.

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        15 days ago

        It is a progression meme though. Your example would be Lonely=incel

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          15 days ago

          Yes, by being a progression meme it implies that the final statement “there is a male loneliness epidemic” is something only arrived at by incels

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            15 days ago

            Its a logic flow diagram, the first three are flawed logic , so the fourth is the wrong as the reasoning. But maybe I have been doing too many conditional and boolean statements in my software

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          14 days ago

          And the progression means thatl only incels come to this conclusion. Which is where it is insulting to many men who aren’t incels.

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            14 days ago

            I don’t see it as a binary choice. Maybe some people can’t read the meme format. Anyone with critical thinking can realize this is not a Venn diagram

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              14 days ago

              If you had any education in logic, A => B => C means something.

              When you do this logical development, it means C is the consequence of A.

              The même format also implies that C is a stupid assertion, because it’s associated with the clown figure. It says that the existence of a loneliness epidemic is a stupid proposition.

              This is denying reality. And this is mocking the people who suffer from loneliness.

              The biggest problem is not even the link between incels and loneliness epidemic. It is the denial of the problem. This is litteraly akin to conspiracy theories.

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                14 days ago

                Its a top down progression logic of conditional statements if this then this, it doesn’t work backwards. As I mentioned elsewhere it is not a Venn diagram meme where bottom statement is the only way you could be lonely.

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                  13 days ago

                  If you deny that this meme is disdainful of the “there is a loneliness epidemic” statement, then you’re in bad faith.

                  Even if what you’re saying is logically true, that’s not the truth people see, as this thread demonstrates. Which means you’re in bad faith here.