• Em Adespoton
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    23 hours ago

    They’re voting to select a new party leader; while that may result in them becoming the new PM, it’s not the same thing.

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      19 hours ago

      The new leader will replace Trudeau as PM; he said he’d step down as PM once the leader is elected. It’s just that the same day this happens, parliament will come back in session and almost certainly bring this new government down in a vote of non-confidence. The new leader will stay PM over the course of the campaign period.

      Edit: The new government being voted down isn’t as much of a certainty. The NDP have walked back their promise to do so; not sure about the Bloc. Either one could prop up the Liberals.

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        …and if Carney wins, he’ll be PM but not an MP. The last time the PM was not a MP, it was John Turner. That was after Justin’s father Pierre resigned. History is repeating.

        The LPC lost badly under Turner in the next election - Cross your fingers.

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          10 hours ago

          The polls have clearly shown that Carney as the perceived front runner is crushing the conservatives lead

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          20 hours ago

          I don’t know if they’ll force a general election right away, but it would be wise for Carney to seek a mandate.

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            19 hours ago

            He doesn’t have a seat so I think an election will be called asap so he can get a seat.

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                No not a requirement, he can be PM without a seat - but it’s very unusual. There will be a general election called soon. He’ll get a seat.

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                I think all senate appointments are full. My guess is there will be an election called March 10.

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        20 hours ago

        The new PM will call an election before giving any party the chance to vote them down.

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          19 hours ago

          I don’t see what they would gain by doing that. The slim chance of staying in government until the fall is super valuable to the Liberals, giving the ability to get the new leader’s name out there and to prove that they can handle Trump.

          Edit: Yesterday the NDP said that they’re no longer committing to bring down the government so I feel like the Liberals have more of a reason not to drop the writ. That being said, Carney said he’d be willing to call an election once he’s sworn in. So we’ll see

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            9 hours ago

            Cause if they don’t the rhetoric from the CPC will be unending. My guess is an election will be called in the next week before March 24. Plus Carney needs a seat in parliament.

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              He doesn’t need a seat, except by convention, and practicality. But it’s not a legal necessity.

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                Not a legal necessity but I would say very important to have at this time. Given that other countries (the US) and people (Elon Mung) are weighing in on Canadian politics with no knowledge or understanding of how our parliamentary system works. Donald already farted out his mouth that JT was using the tarrif situation to “hang on to power” which is complete lies and bullshit needless to say.

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            11 hours ago

            The Liberal’s odds RIGHT NOW (h/t John Goblikon) are better than they have been in years. There’s no guarantee they will get better still in six months, they could easily tank again.