• Jerkface (any/all)
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    1 day ago

    You must be trying hard not to see it. It wasn’t intended as in insult, perhaps if you can understand that you won’t need to lie to yourself.

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      Ah. I see. I don’t think “debased” means what you think it means. Cheers

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        1 day ago

        How would you describe it when someone humiliates you in front of the world and then you thank them…because it’s the only viable path forward for your country?

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          I think what they are saying is that Zelensky did not devalue himself in this moment, that being the meaning of “debase”. He stood up for himself, and in that I’d say he created MORE value within himself.

          I think you used the perfect word: Humiliation. Zelensky didn’t do anything ‘wrong’ and was basically yelled at and belittled by “the leader of the free world”.

          Hope that makes sense, homie. No shade or anything.

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            Yeah he sat there and let them humiliate him and talk over him then thanked them.

            He doesn’t really have a lot of options, the U.S. govt is compromised. He came out of the meeting looking like a world leader, Trump/Vance came out looking like idiot bullies. It was a nice confirmation to the rest of the world that American interests are no longer aligned with the rest of the world.

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              And he went on FOX later last night and continued to stand his ground. I think he did the best he could with the cards he had. The dude has a lot of conviction over this war, imagine how hard it would be to hold your tongue to Trumps lying. lmfao I’m surprised he didn’t punch him in the face lol

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                Nobody is perfect but he did what was needed for his country. He can’t fix the current regime whores but he ensured that the record is clear on what it is going on.

                Any adult with half a brain can see through the charade.

                With that being said, Ukraine gonna be fucked and Russia benefits from this.

                So i doubt Zelensky cares about making history here. But this is how you deal with a bully who has all the tools at his disposal.