This is gonna sound like a troll post but i assure you it is not.

I don’t have a coding background but I’ve used Teams in a lot of workplaces and really only encountered like 2 issues entirely.

Either I got seriously lucky or it was before enshittification.

Why do you yourself dislike it? Is it UI? Performance?

I should also say I use Teams for basic purposes like messaging and uploading files, I literally don’t touch anything else and performance hadn’t been an issue. (Likely because I’ve been given thicc-ass workstations in the past)

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    Anything you do at work while being paid isn’t yours, you’re being paid for your time and effort and the company owns that. Any data collected isn’t really about “you” as a person, so it’s irrelevant to you in the long-term.

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      My identify, my photo, my address are mine. I never wanted to share any of that with Microsoft. Thanks to my employer, I have to.

      Likewise, I don’t want to Microsoft to know my salary, or how many sick days I take due to my disability. Thanks to my employer, Microsoft knows all about me, and I don’t want Microsoft to know anything about me.

      The work data I produce at work belongs to my employer. If my employer is foolish enough to share it with Microsoft, it’s their problem - although arguably, if that ever jeopardizes my company’s ability to win contracts on the markets it operates in because Microsoft has insider knowledge and undercuts it, and my company does less well as a result, then it becomes my problem. But I’m forced to share my personal data because my employer decided without my consent to share it with Microsoft.

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        Your name isn’t private information. Your photo doesn’t have to be included in M365, and isn’t by default in any organization I’ve worked with.

        Your personal address also isn’t in your work profile on M365, that’s usually in an HR system somewhere, not kept in Active Directory. Your salary is the same, it’s not stored in your M365 profile, and neither is your sick days. This simply isn’t normal M365 functionality.

        Microsoft also doesn’t just have access to this information the way you think they do. They can’t just log in with an admin account and check your current status on teams, or read your e-mails, or anything like that.

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          Are you sure about that? It seems they have so many security issues that everyone else already has access

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            If the data isn’t in M365, it can hardly be Microsoft’s fault if the data was stolen.

            Personal addresses, Salaries, Leaves, etc. should all be stored in proper HR systems.

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          Your name isn’t private information.

          What if I don’t want to give it to Microsoft?

          Your photo doesn’t have to be included in M365, and isn’t by default in any organization I’ve worked with.

          My company mandates that we put our mugs on Teams so “people know who they’re talking to”.

          Your personal address also isn’t in your work profile on M365, that’s usually in an HR system somewhere, not kept in Active Directory. Your salary is the same, it’s not stored in your M365 profile, and neither is your sick days. This simply isn’t normal M365 functionality.

          When the fucking secretary puts all that stuff in an Excel file, and everybody’s photos - and company photos - in a sharepoint, and the accountant does the payroll in M365, it is.

          Microsoft also doesn’t just have access to this information the way you think they do. They can’t just log in with an admin account and check your current status on teams, or read your e-mails, or anything like that.

          That’s right: nobody logs in with an admin account: all that data you feed Microsoft is processed automatically.

          You don’t really think they take your money and honestly host your data and provides services without raping your and your company’s information every which way do you? Big Data’s entire business model is exploiting other people’s data.

          Microsoft’s gig is really clever: they force people who otherwise would never give any information to Microsoft to do so by selling their employers services that are cheaper than on-prem, and in turn, their employers force the employees to share their information with Microsoft on pain of getting the sack.

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            Your tinfoil hat is slipping.

            Microsoft does not give a shit about the data from an organization small enough that their payroll is done in Excel.

            They don’t have some secret database of every human and all data they’ve collected about each person in the world.