There are international waters between Iceland and UK. When US is part of NATO, with as a matter of fact, dictatorial control over NATO, ownership of Greenland doesn’t matter. It is only a severance of US/NATO alliance that makes Greenland matter.
So having Greenland as part of NATO independent of the US important. If Trump were to take Greenland, he could allow Russian Naval activity in Greenland’s territorial waters.
Need to stop with any fantasies that US needs Greenland in order to gift Russia anything whatsoever. Russia has access to both oceans and does not need to go anywhere near Greenland to even ship to US or Canada, much less Europe. It does not care about any resources in Greenland because the closest consumer is eastern Canada and US.
Yes Trump wants to leave NATO. If Greenland stays part of Denmark/NATO then that can threaten US.
In the event of a military blockade by NATO after America leaves NATO, Russia’s only route to the Atlantic would involve the Panama Canal or going around Africa or South America.
And Trump is also totally coincidentally trying to take the Panama Canal too.
If EU wants to blockade trade between Russia and eastern Americas, it needs to blockade vast international waters between Iceland and UK, in addition to Baltic sea. Blocking such trade will be viewed as act of war by Russia and Americas, and Russia navy alone is enough to break through/sink EU blockade, or nuke the degenerates.
There is extreme likelihood of EU understanding Russia makes a better friend than US in long term, and failure of this understanding is certain electoral failure. That center-moderate support for nazis in Ukraine is not the obvious moral high ground over home nazis, that happen to be nato skeptics, everyone here seems to think it is. The Ukrainian nazi diminishment of Russia is only a EU favour to US.
Russia has a Pacific coast that means it never needs to use Panama Canal.
A blockage of military ships and not civilian ships is not out of the question.
And having pacific ports and no access to the North Atlantic would mean using the Panama Canal or going around Africa or South America to reach the Atlantic.
They would only need access to North Atlantic if shipping to North America. This would be because they are welcome to ship there, and they would join in seeing it as unwelcome any blockade efforts. There is an international waters path to get there. Greenland and Panama have zero impact on Russia.
Those international waters are very narrow and have been a thorn in the side of Russia forever.
They invaded Ukraine to get access to the Mediterranean through the Black Sea and Turkey because they have no current way of getting Naval ships to European shores without circumventing the globe or sailing through the narrow stretches of the ocean that NATO is capable of blockading.
Those international waters are very narrow and have been a thorn in the side of Russia forever.
The narrowest passage between Iceland and other NATO member is 800km wide with paths that have no international rights for jurisdiction/interdiction.
Crimea has better ports, but Russia still had Black Sea border without it, and had a lease for port prior to the nearly unanimous referendum to abandon a Ukraine made to hate the vast majority of Crimeans. Crimea was a gift to Ukraine in 1957, people still alive, and there was little to no ethnic Ukrainian migration to the area.
At any rate, Turkey can permit access to Africa/ME. Other NATO members can only stop trade with themselves, with Spain preventing access to Atlantic.
There are international waters between Iceland and UK. When US is part of NATO, with as a matter of fact, dictatorial control over NATO, ownership of Greenland doesn’t matter. It is only a severance of US/NATO alliance that makes Greenland matter.
And Trump has also indicated we’re leaving NATO.
So having Greenland as part of NATO independent of the US important. If Trump were to take Greenland, he could allow Russian Naval activity in Greenland’s territorial waters.
Need to stop with any fantasies that US needs Greenland in order to gift Russia anything whatsoever. Russia has access to both oceans and does not need to go anywhere near Greenland to even ship to US or Canada, much less Europe. It does not care about any resources in Greenland because the closest consumer is eastern Canada and US.
Yes Trump wants to leave NATO. If Greenland stays part of Denmark/NATO then that can threaten US.
In the event of a military blockade by NATO after America leaves NATO, Russia’s only route to the Atlantic would involve the Panama Canal or going around Africa or South America.
And Trump is also totally coincidentally trying to take the Panama Canal too.
If EU wants to blockade trade between Russia and eastern Americas, it needs to blockade vast international waters between Iceland and UK, in addition to Baltic sea. Blocking such trade will be viewed as act of war by Russia and Americas, and Russia navy alone is enough to break through/sink EU blockade, or nuke the degenerates.
There is extreme likelihood of EU understanding Russia makes a better friend than US in long term, and failure of this understanding is certain electoral failure. That center-moderate support for nazis in Ukraine is not the obvious moral high ground over home nazis, that happen to be nato skeptics, everyone here seems to think it is. The Ukrainian nazi diminishment of Russia is only a EU favour to US.
Russia has a Pacific coast that means it never needs to use Panama Canal.
A blockage of military ships and not civilian ships is not out of the question.
And having pacific ports and no access to the North Atlantic would mean using the Panama Canal or going around Africa or South America to reach the Atlantic.
They would only need access to North Atlantic if shipping to North America. This would be because they are welcome to ship there, and they would join in seeing it as unwelcome any blockade efforts. There is an international waters path to get there. Greenland and Panama have zero impact on Russia.
Those international waters are very narrow and have been a thorn in the side of Russia forever.
They invaded Ukraine to get access to the Mediterranean through the Black Sea and Turkey because they have no current way of getting Naval ships to European shores without circumventing the globe or sailing through the narrow stretches of the ocean that NATO is capable of blockading.
The narrowest passage between Iceland and other NATO member is 800km wide with paths that have no international rights for jurisdiction/interdiction.
Crimea has better ports, but Russia still had Black Sea border without it, and had a lease for port prior to the nearly unanimous referendum to abandon a Ukraine made to hate the vast majority of Crimeans. Crimea was a gift to Ukraine in 1957, people still alive, and there was little to no ethnic Ukrainian migration to the area.
At any rate, Turkey can permit access to Africa/ME. Other NATO members can only stop trade with themselves, with Spain preventing access to Atlantic.