• ILikeBoobies
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    Maybe we should try a society without the state?

    But that’s Communism

    Seriously though, if you’re unorganized then the oppressors will organize against you. That’s why all systems fail once you add people

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      Actually, that’s anarchy.

      Not necessary bad. Autonomous collectives of participatory rule, by and for one another.

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            No

            just a

            Autonomous collectives of participatory rule, by and for one another.

            Though per the root word you would more typically say commune than collective but it’s not any different

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        Have you ever talked to any of them on a specifically issue-based level without using loaded terminology? Because that’s the crazy thing, a lot of them have truly clued in to real problems in the world, the issue is just that instead of reaching the logical and right conclusions they have been led astray to false conclusions by charlatans.

        I’m not saying go out and try to convert these folks because let’s be real, a lot of them are just simply too far gone into hatred rhetoric. But at the same time I think a lot of them actually are secret communists deep down, they’re just don’t realize they’ve been manipulated by conmen

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            Yeah I didn’t mean loaded here negatively, I just meant imbued with meaning. Bury the lead and these people can agree with some very leftist shit because the things they’re actually mad about are legit: they’re mad that they’re working more for less value, their community is suffering while elites feed off the fat of the land, and that everyone they know is one medical situation away from falling into complete financial ruin. The problem is that they’re unfortunately stupid and not just stupid, but a specific kind of stupid that entire corporate thinktank charlatans have devoted their career to knowing how to deceive and manipulate into thinking stupid as shit conclusions like it’s the poor brown fieldworker who is somehow making them poor. It sucks and it makes me sad because these people are legitimately being preyed on but at the same time through this process they come out the other side as absolute monsters, and we don’t get anywhere abiding monsters… I dunno man. I know we all know this shit already and i’m preaching to the choir, it’s just depressing. Fuck.