Haven’t watched it just yet, but at least now I know to get good and sloshed first.

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    I would not recommend watching it sloshed. That combination would just put me to sleep.

    It’s a terribly simple MacGuffin-chasing plot, yet somehow feels weighed down by exposition. All of the characters are super flat and under developed. It’s not bad in any entertaining way, it’s just boring.

    There was a lot of talk around here before hand about whether Section 31 should ever be used as protagonists, or if that represents a betrayal of the principles behind Star Trek. This movie was not worth that level of discussion. It doesn’t raise any murky moral quandaries or even really glorify the idea of an anything-goes type secret organization. This could just as easily have been an on-the-books Starfleet team - apart from the fact that they didn’t seem all that competent. The concept implies a darker version of a Mission Impossible team, but what was delivered was a bunch of goofballs more in line with Guardians of the Galaxy.

    Pluses:

    Michelle Yeoh does a great job with what she’s given. That’s not much, but she’s fun to watch as always.

    The woman who plays young Rachel Garrett does a good job - she has some of the cringiest dialogue in this, but she delivers it well. I wouldn’t mind seeing more of her in this role, though that seems very unlikely at this point.

    The action is executed well enough, and the effects are all very pretty. It doesn’t mean much without a compelling story behind it, but it’s still worth saying.

    The idea of a microscopic character is interesting, and they used it in some fun ways. The character himself was awfully annoying, though!

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      Haven’t watched yet but its funny to me the idea that the Federation with their lofty principles still has a secret police – but its actually a make work program for all the incurable psychopaths in the galaxy that resembles a black ops wetworks deep cover operations in every way, except you give them “very important and secret missions” just chasing each other around the edges of the galaxy to keep them away from the rest of the federation

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        I love it - much more consistent with Star Trek concepts than whatever it is they’ve been going for. I could almost see Lower Decks sneaking an idea like that in if they were still around.

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      they didn’t seem all that competent

      That would be bad enough for a Starfleet team, but being part of the incredibly secret and elite Section 31? And as their “alpha team”? It just doesn’t make sense.

      The woman who plays young Rachel Garrett does a good job

      Why would Starfleet even send someone to supervise the team on their behalf?! That really does not go with how Section 31 had been shown to function. There should be nearly nobody that even knows Section 31 exists in the fist place, let alone some random junior science officer.

      the effects are all very pretty

      I thought the shapeshifter’s visual effect was neat. Especially compared to the DS9 changeling effect.

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        That would be bad enough for a Starfleet team, but being part of the incredibly secret and elite *Section 31?* And as their *“alpha team”?* It just doesn’t make sense.

        Torchwood & agents of SHIELD

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      The editing was also really jarring. Constant cuts to really tight close ups of characters who haven’t been introduced to the audience. And the fight scenes were somehow too shakey and too slow.

      As someone who’s studied extensively at the Gizmonic Institute of Deep Hurting, it’s just not a very good movie.