I see you’re getting a lot of criticism so I felt the need to say I support the decision.
The idea behind Lemmy is that users can be a part of any instance they want and not be a part of any instance they don’t. The same communities can exist on multiple instances and users can subscribe to all of them, some of them, or none of them. Mods are users too so I see no shame in instance hopping. As a user of Lemmy.ca, literally nothing changes for me besides the words after the “@”
To emphasize how little things changed for me, I was actually already subscribed to this community before the announcement was made. I will continue to stay subscribed to the other community on lemmy.blahaj.zone as well. Nothing has changed for me and my subscribed feed.
Instance admins have total control over the communities on their instance. The admin can appoint themselves or anyone else as a moderator and unlock the community, so there’s a chance there will be more posts. If not, that’s fine too! I’m subscribed to a fair amount of communities that are no longer active. It doesn’t change anything as I scroll through my subscription feed!
If they dont want to be mods under a specific instance, thats fine. Whats not fine announcing the community will be archived and locked, move to (insert instance here) for this community going forward, with functionally zero warning or even a damned poll about it
You can create your own community on lemmy.blahaj.zone! There’s nothing preventing you from doing that. Lemmy is designed specifically for this scenario. If you do create one, I’d subscribe to it! It doesn’t matter to me where the content is coming from as long as it’s content I like. I’ll subscribe to a dozen versions of 196. Nothing changes for me.
You can create your own community on lemmy.blahaj.zone!
That’s seriously underestimating the time it takes to create a new community if the old community isn’t on board. [email protected] recently moved to [email protected] , but the mods made sure to ping everyone to inform them of the change.
Not allowing members to take over the former community seems power tripping.
Except the 196 community is being squatted on with a permanent redirect to here. I can respect not wanting to mod on a specific instance, but forcing everyone to move (over stepping down as mod and setting up shop somewhere else), especially out of the blue without consulting with the community, feels pretty shitty. The mods personally might not enjoy the instance’s moderation policy, but I think large parts of the community do! At least leave the space for the people who don’t want to migrate
It’s their shot to call to move themselves. Telling everyone else to move feels shitty. I imagine a lot of people will prefer to stay on blahaj, so we’ll likely have to create a c/197 or something. It would’ve been so much easier to just hand over the reigns to someone else, put up a post with “hey, the core mod team is moving, you can find us over here”, and let community members decide which one, or both, communities they feel better about participating in. From the reactions on the blahaj post, not many community members agree with this move.
If there are so many people angry about this, a new community will soon emerge. The only thing “lost” if people over at blahaj.zone create 197 would be the number of subscribers. And when so many people are so upset about the change, you could assume they would willingly flock to this new community. Like People did with [email protected] and [email protected].
But if this doesn’t happen, it would mean that people are not angry enough to make such a move or just don’t care enough about a change like that. For example, I don’t really care at all. I was already subscribed here and didn’t even notice anything at first. But if they had moved to lemmy.ml (for example), I would have cared enough not to follow and maybe even start my own 196.
You spot the difference between that comparison and the current case tho, right? Both Startrek communities are still unlocked and flourishing. By all means, make a new 196 on .world if you prefer it. But don’t lock the old one for people who can’t, or don’t want to, move. That’s just petty.
Creating a new community isn’t necessary. Admin could transfer control of the existing one to a new mod team if the current one can’t be arsed running it.
Since I just realised that I became a Mod here (when did this even happend? Is there no notification or something?)
I can ask. But it’s still their choice. Maybe they want to move as much members as possible, maybe they want to keep it as some sort of archive. Maybe this was part of the Deal with Ada? I don’t know. The only thing I can offer you is to ask. Would that be okay?
Yeah, I suspect you’re right and that the intent is to bring as much of the existing userbase across as possible, but it’d be nice to know what’s going on. It’s entirely possible they did reach out to people privately and nobody wanted to moderate 196@LBZ, but I doubt it.
Whatever the case may be, I would appreciate it if you could get an answer as to why that was the course of action chosen.
Blahaj is still there, though; it’s just the community that’s moving.
I only know what was written in the post—something about the “jurisdiction” of community mods/admins and instance admins and how hard to punish people.
I see you’re getting a lot of criticism so I felt the need to say I support the decision.
The idea behind Lemmy is that users can be a part of any instance they want and not be a part of any instance they don’t. The same communities can exist on multiple instances and users can subscribe to all of them, some of them, or none of them. Mods are users too so I see no shame in instance hopping. As a user of Lemmy.ca, literally nothing changes for me besides the words after the “@”
To emphasize how little things changed for me, I was actually already subscribed to this community before the announcement was made. I will continue to stay subscribed to the other community on lemmy.blahaj.zone as well. Nothing has changed for me and my subscribed feed.
The place the mods said would be taking to “mod only” and thus effectively closed and useless for everyone?
Instance admins have total control over the communities on their instance. The admin can appoint themselves or anyone else as a moderator and unlock the community, so there’s a chance there will be more posts. If not, that’s fine too! I’m subscribed to a fair amount of communities that are no longer active. It doesn’t change anything as I scroll through my subscription feed!
If they dont want to be mods under a specific instance, thats fine. Whats not fine announcing the community will be archived and locked, move to (insert instance here) for this community going forward, with functionally zero warning or even a damned poll about it
You can create your own community on lemmy.blahaj.zone! There’s nothing preventing you from doing that. Lemmy is designed specifically for this scenario. If you do create one, I’d subscribe to it! It doesn’t matter to me where the content is coming from as long as it’s content I like. I’ll subscribe to a dozen versions of 196. Nothing changes for me.
That’s seriously underestimating the time it takes to create a new community if the old community isn’t on board. [email protected] recently moved to [email protected] , but the mods made sure to ping everyone to inform them of the change.
Not allowing members to take over the former community seems power tripping.
Except the 196 community is being squatted on with a permanent redirect to here. I can respect not wanting to mod on a specific instance, but forcing everyone to move (over stepping down as mod and setting up shop somewhere else), especially out of the blue without consulting with the community, feels pretty shitty. The mods personally might not enjoy the instance’s moderation policy, but I think large parts of the community do! At least leave the space for the people who don’t want to migrate
Then they can literally make their own Community in minutes. This is the strength of the Fediverse!
Moss and the Mod-Team are the ones to call this shot and they did.
It’s their shot to call to move themselves. Telling everyone else to move feels shitty. I imagine a lot of people will prefer to stay on blahaj, so we’ll likely have to create a c/197 or something. It would’ve been so much easier to just hand over the reigns to someone else, put up a post with “hey, the core mod team is moving, you can find us over here”, and let community members decide which one, or both, communities they feel better about participating in. From the reactions on the blahaj post, not many community members agree with this move.
It is also their shot to move the Commnity.
If there are so many people angry about this, a new community will soon emerge. The only thing “lost” if people over at blahaj.zone create 197 would be the number of subscribers. And when so many people are so upset about the change, you could assume they would willingly flock to this new community. Like People did with [email protected] and [email protected].
But if this doesn’t happen, it would mean that people are not angry enough to make such a move or just don’t care enough about a change like that. For example, I don’t really care at all. I was already subscribed here and didn’t even notice anything at first. But if they had moved to lemmy.ml (for example), I would have cared enough not to follow and maybe even start my own 196.
You spot the difference between that comparison and the current case tho, right? Both Startrek communities are still unlocked and flourishing. By all means, make a new 196 on .world if you prefer it. But don’t lock the old one for people who can’t, or don’t want to, move. That’s just petty.
[email protected] has 33 Users per day.
[email protected] has 1.57K Users per day.
Creating a new community isn’t necessary. Admin could transfer control of the existing one to a new mod team if the current one can’t be arsed running it.
Since I just realised that I became a Mod here (when did this even happend? Is there no notification or something?)
I can ask. But it’s still their choice. Maybe they want to move as much members as possible, maybe they want to keep it as some sort of archive. Maybe this was part of the Deal with Ada? I don’t know. The only thing I can offer you is to ask. Would that be okay?
Yeah, I suspect you’re right and that the intent is to bring as much of the existing userbase across as possible, but it’d be nice to know what’s going on. It’s entirely possible they did reach out to people privately and nobody wanted to moderate 196@LBZ, but I doubt it.
Whatever the case may be, I would appreciate it if you could get an answer as to why that was the course of action chosen.
No Problem! :D Now that I figured out that I’m also Part of the Team I feel a bit more confidend to ask :P
I just send a Message and will Post here as soon as I know more :D
I don’t get why people are so angry. I was subscribed to 196 for the Vibes and The memes not because it is on a specific instance. .__.
A lot of people were happy with Blahaj being very protective of queer people.
If it was working well, why break it?
Blahaj is still there, though; it’s just the community that’s moving.
I only know what was written in the post—something about the “jurisdiction” of community mods/admins and instance admins and how hard to punish people.
Other than that? I don’t know either.