• masterofn001
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    12 hours ago

    If you buy a $10 “fashion watch” from the ugly shiny watch depot at your local dollar mart, odds are you’ll have wrist cancer in a month.

    Only watches I own are stainless steel, with stainless, leather, or fabric straps.

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      12 hours ago

      Silicone bands are not the same as fluoroelastomer, which is what the article is about. A LOT of bands on Amazon are silicone bands.

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        11 hours ago

        They asked about typical watch bands.

        I use what I consider typical watch bands.

        I don’t worry about what elastomer or poly whatever is in these other bands.

        Silicone is not without risk. And products sold on amazon aren’t exactly always as marketed.

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4884743/

        Anyway, I was commenting on typical.

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          11 hours ago

          That article is not at all what you said it was. It is saying medical grade silicone is safe, not that “non-medical” silicone is not.

          Generally, siloxanes (silicones) are well tolerated by the human organism, and therefore they are an integral part of innovative methods of treatment, health care and nursing. They are commonly regarded as non-toxic to humans and the environment, or toxic to a very small extend. However, there is a number of publications in which the scientists and experts question this opinion. Many authors demonstrated that the degree of polymerization and the structure affect the ability to overcome cellular barriers, including stratum corneum of the skin and absorption into the organism, migration in the living organism, ability to accumulate, degradability and toxicity. This particularly applies to low molecular weight siloxanes. It can be concluded in the summary, that an evaluation of the safety of siloxanes application should always refer to a particular compound, not a chemical group. Furthermore, the use of low molecular weight silicones should be reduced, as well as the purity of high molecular weight silicones, which may contain low molecular compounds as impurities, should be monitored. It should be emphasized that in the case of silicones for medical and pharmaceutical use, the manufactures of this group of compounds formed a special class, which they called “Medical Grade Silicones” or “Silicones for Healthcare Application.” These silicones must meet certain standards. Medical grade silicones are specially designed, produced and purified, so that to meet the highest requirements of the medical industry. The detailed toxicity data and information about “Medical Grade Silicones” and “Silicones for Healthcare Application” will be given in the next parts of this cycle.

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            11 hours ago

            Congratulations on quoting the summary and skipping over

            In conclusion, considering the safety of the direct application or contact by humans with siloxanes, the polycondensation reaction is preferred, due to lower contamination with low molecular weight siloxanes of cyclic structure. The literature indicates that they exhibit toxic effects, for example: cancerogenicity, modifications in proteins conformation, influence on the immune system, genotoxicity, skin irritations, intraocular pressure increase and teratogenicity

            Trust the maker of that silicone strap on amazon named qxzijhnnnggqqi qzzcni all you want to produce the kind of silicone or whatever other material.

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              9 hours ago

              Neither of the cited articles mentions the toxicity at all though. Also, are you sure your “typical” bands are free of heavy metals?

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                You’re right, nowhere does it mention toxicity, except the entire article.

                And you’re right, I am not sure there aren’t any heavy metals in my leather and fabric straps.

                And you’re also correct that the stainless straps that I do have which I bought from a jeweler I am additionally uncertain about their contents aside from the manufacturers certification.

                But weren’t you talking about silicone?

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                  No, dude. You don’t understand what I said. You just quoted the original article. I’m saying the cited articles in the article are not be claiming toxicity at all. They are claiming presence, but not toxicity. I do not know where this study got off citing those sources when they make no claims as such.