Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from [email protected] for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don’t want to insult anyone here being a ‘bastard’. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

Linking the affected users and mods: @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

  • Sunshine (she/her)
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 hours ago

    Promoting animal products isn’t abstaining from animal products.

    “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.”

    all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food

    Being against the exploitation of animals is the main thing that sets vegans apart from the plant-based folks.

    • Zagorath@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      7 hours ago

      Veganism is abstaining from animal products. The reason is immaterial. Repeatedly asserting the contrary doesn’t change that fact.

      • Sunshine (she/her)
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        7 hours ago

        So you’re just going to ignore a part of the definition because it doesn’t suit your argument.

        • Zagorath@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 hours ago

          I’ve explained the definition here already. The definition given by one vegan organisation is not authoritative. Because definitions are defined by how words are used, not by how individual organisations say they should be used. I’m not going to keep repeating myself on this point. Catch up on the thread next time before responding.

          • Sunshine (she/her)
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            6 hours ago

            The British vegan society was founded by the man Donald Watson as he coined the vegan word with his friends. Its not just “one vegan organization”

            You’re not vegan so you do not get to speak so authoritatively on the topic.

            • Zagorath@aussie.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              6 hours ago

              The British vegan society was founded by the man Donald Watson as he coined the vegan word with his friends.

              Already covered elsewhere in the thread. Read the thread before commenting out of ignorance and making yourself look like a fool.