• Frog
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    1 day ago

    According to that article, less than 55,000 are without shelter.

    i actually think that is pretty good especially since they have taken over 135,000 refugees.

    • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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      24 hours ago

      the refugees get shelter though.

      there are also homeless shelters, but some don’t have enough capacity and a lot of homeless ppl have mental health issues that make them avoid some help and make them unfit to get a job too. some can barely speak. it’s a difficult situation.

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        23 hours ago

        Flip it however you wanna flip it . 500,000 out 85,000,000 seems insanely worse than 770,000 out of 347,000,000 which is the USA homeless numbers according to google. What the fuck happened? The whole country is only the size of a large state lol. How is the largest EU economy so incompetent it produces A homeless rate on a scale of a super power?

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          11 hours ago

          Not sure where you got the 2 numbers from but without knowing their methods of gathering and interpreting data you can’t just compare the two numbers as is.

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          22 hours ago

          What the fuck happened?

          Well 16 years basically nothing, then a little bit before the government imploded. But don’t worry there is an election soon and the top 2 parties are populists and one of them is openly fascist. So give us another couple years and everything will surely fall into place… any moment now…

          How is the largest EU economy so incompetent it produces A homeless rate on a scale of a super power?

          You know how Germany has universal healthcare? Well, doesn’t mean shit if you have to wait for a specialist (like a psychologist) months to years. Oh but don’t worry, Politicians (+some others) have a different, better Version. They can get any specialist in days and most cost is covered by the state. So they surely have the best interests at heart for the 90% of population who just get the basic healthcare.

          And if that isn’t enough our pension system is dying pretty fast as well, as it is basically a pyramid scheme. So we currently have lots of old folks not getting enough money, and not enough young people to pay for that, even though the young have to pay more and more. But don’t worry, if you think this is bad: it will be getting a lot worse. Because this trend is continuing, young people paying a lot right now, will receive even less later. I honestly do not think I will have enough money to even eat when I am older, despite having a good job and paying 18,6% (50/50 split with the employer) of my income towards the pension system. Oh, and take a guess who is exempt from that. Politicians (+some others) again. Who get as much pension for 4 years of “work” as the average person gets after their whole work life. So surely, they will fix that too.

          Germany was trending upwards until 1982, then our version of Reagan put the downfall in motion. Any time now.

          • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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            14 hours ago

            it’s not half as bad as that. specialist wait times are usually less than 2 weeks. edge cases are rare and you also have those in other countries like the US, for example.

            it’s normal the pension system has to be adjusted from time to time. it has been done before and there is lots of time to do it again when necessary. Germans can also have private pensions on top. in other countries it’s completely private or even from the employer, which is a lot more unstable.

            higher politician pension is important to help avoid corruption.

            there is no downfall. the only thing that could happen is doomers like you making people vote AfD by driving them with fears to right wing populists and turning the country fascist again.

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              specialist wait times are usually less than 2 weeks.

              No they are not. The average wait time is currently 30 days. So if you are living somewhere where a lot of specialists are available: good for you. You are the other extreme.

              I don’t, however. For oculists & urologists I wait ~6 months, for dentists ~4 months, for otolaryngologists I wait (with lots of trying as I require them monthly) ~2 months and for the psychiatrist (with the ability to diagnose autism) I am still waiting since nearly 2 years now.

              it’s normal the pension system has to be adjusted from time to time. it has been done before and there is lots of time to do it again when necessary.

              2030. One single term. This year the governments supplements the pension system with 121 Billion euro, from tax money which could also be used for other much needed renovations. And each year it is a bigger part of the pot, as more people take from the pension system than people who pay into it. 2020 it was 100 payers, 57 takers. 2030 it will be 67 takers. 2050 it will be 77 takers. This system is everything but stable.

              Germans can also have private pensions on top.

              That is coming from a very privileged position. Not everyone is able to do so.

              in other countries it’s completely private or even from the employer, which is a lot more unstable.

              Agreed, but saying “it worse elsewhere” is not an argument. Its better elsewhere too and that is what we should aim for. I am absolutely for a pension system, but one which works long term and for everybody.

              higher politician pension is important to help avoid corruption.

              Yeah, thats what the politicians say and a lot of them are still corrupt as fuck. You know, there is only 1 political party which does not accept donations/bribes but solely depends on the memberships, and that is “Die Linke”. Members Of the Bundestag also donate the bigger part of their salaries to good causes. They only retain the average German salary.

              there is no downfall. the only thing that could happen is doomers like you making people vote AfD by driving them with fears to right wing populists and turning the country fascist again.

              I am for positive change, benefiting the many. And that sure as hell ain’t the AfD. Now let me take a potshot as well: based on your post you love the “Weiter so” mentality of CDU/SPD and maybe it is your inability to embrace change that makes this world a worse place and drives people towards the Afd.

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            22 hours ago

            You know how Germany has universal healthcare? Well, doesn’t mean shit if you have to wait for a specialist (like a psychologist) months to years.

            Dude, that’s not different in the U.S. Even if you can afford healthcare, you have to wait months for a specialist. I had to wait 9 months and have my GP take over my medication to get in with a new neurologist when my old one retired. And we have “good” insurance.

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                12 hours ago

                Nor did I intend it to be. It was a sad note that even in a socialized medicine system things have ended up like the U.S.

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        22 hours ago

        I wonder if there are also issues like there are with homeless shelters in the U.S.? One big one here is you are not allowed to bring your dog with you. Many homeless women understandably have a dog to protect them. It’s a horrible choice they have to make.