• Phoenixz
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    I’d love to degoogle and debullshit my phone but then I need the back app… I’d like to tap with my phone to pay, and that won’t be allowed because we can have nice things.

    I’d like to use a host of other apps I won’t be able to use anymore…

    Any solution that allows me to just use a nice phone with all the features?

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      Pay with a credit card, you can tap those, and then you’re not inviting one of the tech giants to monitor your purchases for no reason.

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        Your payment processor and creditor are probably also selling your info btw. If you use a service like Google Pay or Samsung Pay there’s a layer of anonymity between you and the merchant at a minimum. Google has an incentive to monetize your data, but they for sure don’t sell it. Companies pay them to advertise to certain demographics and geozones, but parting with that info would make them obsolete in a heartbeat. That’s the strategy nowadays at least. Hoard the data and tightly control access to it. Last time I checked(it’s been a few years), only like 8 people at Google even had the ability to decrypt user data with master keys to comply with lawful orders given by courts, and even then they had a good track record of denying subpoenas due to an unreasonable request for mass amounts of user data outside of specific timelines or even data on people who were within a geofence at the time of a crime. It’s why there moving your maps timeline away from their severs and onto the device. I’m all for giving companies some shit where they deserve it, but in my opinion this kind of stuff gets blown out of proportion and parroted everywhere without much explanation.

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          I know too much about how ad tech works. I’ve written code to de-anonymize all the data Google leaks through bid requests. Not individual credit card transactions, but enough to make me want nothing to do with them.

          Ignorance is bliss as far as credit card companies go, I tell myself they sell anonymized transactions as csv dumps that aren’t tied to cookies etc. It’s probably worse than that. But if I really want to be anonymous, I pay cash.

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      3 days ago

      put your credit card in the back of the case hah

      best bet is get a phone with default android and delete default apps with ADB

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        I did this when I was in Japan. I didn’t want to jump through all their ridiculous hoops to get tap to pay to work, so I just threw my NFC debit card into my case and called it a day. Worked 90% of the time.

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          It’s funny how i never thought of this until i wrote the comment. Was Now i just gotta make an RFID blocking sheet that flips off the back lol