https://lemmy.world/c/christians

This community does not affirm practiced LGBTQ+ lifestyles

Rule 8 of this community is in clear breach of the first goal from the lemmy/mastodon.world code of conduct

  • Ace T'Ken
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    510 months ago

    I was going to say something pretty similar to what you were.

    I’m the last one to generally defend religious people, but are they actually being bigoted?

    There’s a pretty large difference between not affirming something and attacking something and frankly flipping through the community I didn’t see either of those things occurring.

    It sounds like the original poster just doesn’t like the rule itself.

    • Ghostalmedia
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      2110 months ago

      What if it was race? What if they said “this community doesn’t affirm black lifestyles.”

      • @[email protected]
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        -110 months ago

        It is not like we live in society where everyone is always welcome.

        “What if it was Russians?” (aha we forbade them long time ago), Chinese (them too), native Americans (we killed them off), what is they are from some poor country… Some of those russians and Chinese are lgbt+, what about them? Migrants? no way.

        There are always limits if you don’t see them you should work on your sensibility (or probably information source)

        They have some rules, it is on us all (not only admins) to assess if those rules align with this server or they should make their own instance (or go to known conservative instance).

        I don’t even want to look at their community (i am ignorant of all religions) if they just don’t want some content it is ok with me, if they are hateful and share hate content and contet against lgbt people then delete them.

        • TheSpookiestUser
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          1010 months ago

          Discrimination against Russians, Chinese, or Native Americans based on their demographic is also unacceptable. That it once was doesn’t make it ok now.

      • Ace T'Ken
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        10 months ago

        I mean, we could play the game “what if they said a thing they didn’t say” all day long.

        What if they said shoes go on your hands?

        • TheSpookiestUser
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          1410 months ago

          Would it be unacceptable if it described another demographic, is what they’re asking.

          • PupBiru
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            610 months ago

            100% this… race and sexuality are both pretty similar: things that people just are and can’t change about themselves

            to say they’re not the same is… well, it’s not wrong, however they’re comparable in this context. if you say it’s not the same thing, you’re either arguing in bad faith or you made the exact point we were trying to: the only reason 1 is acceptable and the other is not doesn’t stand on logical foundations

    • style99
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      1710 months ago

      Pro-LGBTQ+ content is not allowed

      That sounds pretty intolerant to me. How else do you define a bigot?

      • @[email protected]
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        310 months ago

        I’d say that sounds more like a circlejerk than intolerance but that sounds pretty gay so is probably not allowed there either.

      • Crunkle_Foreskin
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        10 months ago

        Putting gay content on a Christian community is like putting a Pitbull in a nursery. It’s done only to cause a problem.

        Would you put gay content in a Muslim community?

        • @[email protected]
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          510 months ago

          What are you on about? There are many Christians who have no problem with LGBTQ+, and there are lots of relevant issues about it to discuss, especially in a Christian community.

        • TheSpookiestUser
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          410 months ago

          If it was on topic, yeah sure. It’s on them for having a problem with someone’s identity.

          • arkcom
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            110 months ago

            If it was on-topic it was allowed as the other rules clearly stated.

              • arkcom
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                010 months ago

                Well, probably not anymore, since not allowing lgbt discussion is enough to get your community banned without warning. Its always on topic.

                • TheSpookiestUser
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                  10 months ago

                  Then I think you’ve fundamentally misunderstood. If I have a community about baseball, and I don’t allow non-baseball content, I would not have a rule stating “no non-baseball content and no LGBT content”. That doesn’t make any sense, and would only be included if I also wanted to remove baseball-and-lgbt content, which would be bigoted.