The killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson sparked public outrage over the for-profit health insurance industry's practices. A new poll shows majority blame insurers for Thompson's death.
The ideal outcome from this would be comprehensive health care reform in the US, probably including single-payer health care for all Americans. Neither major party will support it and even though a majority of Americans support it, they don’t know how to use the democratic system to get it. All of the republican party and 75 percent of Democrats will take health industry money to preserve the status quo. The few progressive Democrats who actually attempt to take this on will have to fight most of their own party, and they can never win that way. Americans are also rather easily distracted.
Unfortunately the most likely outcome of this whole thing is, within a small margin of error, nothing.
I wonder if he’s willing to keep going hard and tank his own defense.
If he was, and his lawyers were willing and able, I still don’t know what it would look like. Maybe maneuver some kind of disclosures that wouldn’t otherwise be available. But that was suppose to be the case with Ghizlane Maxwell too and look how it turned out.
In terms of broad social effects, Shinzo Abe is the only example to look at that I’m aware of.
There’s no disclosure that will matter. What would that be? That health insurance companies did their best to avoid paying out claims they knew to be legitimate? That they delayed coverage of medical produceres hoping the patient would just die before they had to pay? All of that is literally what they’re supposed to do. That’s their purpose. They maximized shareholder value by doing those things. Their CEOs got bonuses by doing those things.
Private for-profit insurance is inherently parasitic. Every dollar they earn in revenue is literally just inefficiency in health care spending, and they are directly incentized to maximize those dollars.
The health insurance industry itself needs to be destroyed, or at least shrunken massively. A huge number of Americans, even many who claim to want single-payer health insurance, will oppose political movement in that direction.
You can’t predict the specific details of small things like individuals and what events will be the flashpoint… We’re talking about systems things in the first place so trying to predict the future by working your way back from a nearly certain outcome is just going to lead down infinite rabbit holes.
However that doesn’t mean that one of those infinite rabbit holes wasn’t the right one - I just think it can’t be predicted. Perhaps for 3 Body Problem kind of reasons.
That’s the point. The commenter said it is just the start and things will improve without any hints of doubt. It sure would be great but from the part incidents, it is just unlikely. No one can predict the future but imo it is definitely more likely for almost no noticeable impact than the end of entire for-profit medical industry.
The ideal outcome from this would be comprehensive health care reform in the US, probably including single-payer health care for all Americans. Neither major party will support it and even though a majority of Americans support it, they don’t know how to use the democratic system to get it. All of the republican party and 75 percent of Democrats will take health industry money to preserve the status quo. The few progressive Democrats who actually attempt to take this on will have to fight most of their own party, and they can never win that way. Americans are also rather easily distracted.
Unfortunately the most likely outcome of this whole thing is, within a small margin of error, nothing.
Nah, this is going to blow up. Luigi will be in the news pretty much weekly for the next 18-24 months. This is just starting to roll.
I wonder if he’s willing to keep going hard and tank his own defense.
If he was, and his lawyers were willing and able, I still don’t know what it would look like. Maybe maneuver some kind of disclosures that wouldn’t otherwise be available. But that was suppose to be the case with Ghizlane Maxwell too and look how it turned out.
In terms of broad social effects, Shinzo Abe is the only example to look at that I’m aware of.
There’s no disclosure that will matter. What would that be? That health insurance companies did their best to avoid paying out claims they knew to be legitimate? That they delayed coverage of medical produceres hoping the patient would just die before they had to pay? All of that is literally what they’re supposed to do. That’s their purpose. They maximized shareholder value by doing those things. Their CEOs got bonuses by doing those things.
Private for-profit insurance is inherently parasitic. Every dollar they earn in revenue is literally just inefficiency in health care spending, and they are directly incentized to maximize those dollars.
The health insurance industry itself needs to be destroyed, or at least shrunken massively. A huge number of Americans, even many who claim to want single-payer health insurance, will oppose political movement in that direction.
Roll into what? People are willing to read, and bitch online. Occasionally, you might get them to vote. Nothing will happen beyond that.
Bet you’re the same person who would say the shooter would never happen!
You gotta leave some time for the crowd to do their thing my dude ;)
I don’t see a mechanism for converting that action to large scale movements
It doesn’t have to be a large scale movement. A couple of copy cats would get things moving.
You can’t predict the specific details of small things like individuals and what events will be the flashpoint… We’re talking about systems things in the first place so trying to predict the future by working your way back from a nearly certain outcome is just going to lead down infinite rabbit holes.
However that doesn’t mean that one of those infinite rabbit holes wasn’t the right one - I just think it can’t be predicted. Perhaps for 3 Body Problem kind of reasons.
That’s the point. The commenter said it is just the start and things will improve without any hints of doubt. It sure would be great but from the part incidents, it is just unlikely. No one can predict the future but imo it is definitely more likely for almost no noticeable impact than the end of entire for-profit medical industry.
People? Or you?
Wellll…since nobody seemed to vote last cycle they kinda got a point
That’s because voting does nothing, especially not in Amercia. The choices were between a fascist and a neoliberal stooge.
No no no…just vote harder…trust me bro…just this next time we’ll have an effective government…trust me bro
Thanks for making my point.
You’re welcome!
Until this is resolved, lives are likely to keep ending…
If you know what I mean 😉
I know. People will keep getting their healthcare denied by for profit corporations. :(
I was hinting at something else. But yeah, sadly probably true, wish my hinting was the true one though.
Agree politically but disagree when it comes to stochastic terrorism. The people are fed up and the government has been out to brunch for decades.