• Rusty
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    It still doesn’t make much sense. In 2002 people were already using torrent protocol, that allows to download files in chunks. You can download the missing 3% of your file latter. And even before torrent there was a Direct Connect protocol and DC++ client.

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      Torrents hadn’t really taken off in 2002, it was more Kazaa and eDonkey2000 from my recollection.

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        Okay now I’m sad I missed eDonkey, was it really different than Napster, Kazaa and such? Or was it the same old, you download a movie and find out once it was downloaded that 5% percent of the time it was beastiality. Fucking weird times man.

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          eDonkey wasn’t like napster/kazaa/ and the rest, but it wasn’t quite like torrents either. It was kinda weird tbh, but it was far easier to get and distribute stuff and i was sad when it died.

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              It was P2P as it used file hashes to look for other clients to share the file so you didn’t need to rely on downloading from specific users directly like napster, but the other features depended on when you used it and what client. Originally, it was centralized and wasn’t that different than its contemporaries in how you used it, but then an improved client was released (eMule) and it added support for a second decentralized network (KAD) and it also used compression and had a bunch of better features like robust bad IP blocking (RIAA was ramping up their bullshit around then) and way to disguise the traffic to prevent ISP snooping/blocking.

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              Not sure about anyone else, but I used a website with eDonkey links (which also worked in the Overnet client)

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        I was torrenting in 2001/02. Had this awesome little client with Chinese characters that worked great, but took me a minute to figure out which buttons did what.

        Pretty sure I still have the stand-alone file on a USB somewhere.

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      BitTorrent wasn’t even launched until AFTER Napster was shutdown.

      The mention of Napster would have put the original download this tweet refers to as happening sometime before July 2001. But, it’s entirely possible they were using Napster as a generic term for any number of the other protocols around in 2002, most of which didn’t have the ability to resume. BitTorrent would have been the anomaly here for its resumabilty, but was rarely used for music privacy at the time. PirateBay and Demonoid launching later in 2003.

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      Sure, and all 5 people who were using torrents in 2002 were having a grand old time with them, too, I’m sure.

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      The whole Napster thing was pretty brief, I only remember it really being around for like 6 months. Then it got shut down and everyone moved to the alternatives that had resume and other features, like eDonkey and Kazaa. I really can’t remember what order they came in though.

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        This got me looking and unfortunately possibly found a bit of info that debunks the whole tweet. Napster was completely gone by July 2001. So this guy either has the date wrong(by like 15months) or it wasn’t a Napster download. Kazaa would be out by then too probably so that leaves Limewire, but that used torrenting protocols so it wouldn’t have had the same susceptibility to a loss of connection.

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              You know you don’t have to be anal over things that don’t matter right?

              What other memes have you “debunked” recently? That seems like a great use of your time and energy.

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                I’m sorry curiosity has left your life entirely. Also fuck you.

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                  If you think debunking memes is the sole curiosity left in life, you’re on a much much lower path than I’m on, friend.
                  Also, be nice.

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        🎶 Once in awhile, maybe you will feel the urge

        To break international copyright law

        By downloading MP3s from file-sharing sites

        Like Morpheus, or Grokster, or LimeWire, or Kazaa

        But deep in your heart, you know the guilt would drive you mad

        And the shame would leave a permanent scar

        ’Cause you start out stealing songs, then you’re robbing liquor stores

        And selling crack and running over school kids with your car 🎶

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            I think AllofMP3 had the best business model - price varied based on how high quality you wanted, and they offered soooo many formats. With no DRM, of course.

            Is it really the customers’ problem if the USA and Russian copyright organizations didn’t communicate very well?

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      While yes it existed, it was not very widely used. I think I downloaded my first torrent in 2005 or 2006ish. That was about when the clients got much more popular. Still took forever to download shit though.