• Kalothar
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    9 days ago

    “Underachievers”

    I hate this myth of the lazy person, that there are significant portions of people that are lazy enough to throw the entire system off.

    In almost every single UBI study done on this planet, that has not been the affect.

    Turns out the vast majority of people like to achieve things, rewards are not just monetary and the way people feel about money varies.

    The odds of you motivating me to do something specifically for money is so low, there has to be another incentive. Why because my base needs are already met, so I have the ability and time to focus on my other needs.

    That’s what inherited wealth does for people. There is not a massive portion of underachievers and this seems more reflective of the way you view people.

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      9 days ago

      If you’re trying to redistribute society’s wealth, then you’re going to have to take from those who produce more than average, and give it to those who produce less than average.

      Your point about being motivated by things other than money is something I’ll readily agree upon, but is also irrelevant to a discussion on the redistribution of wealth, where we’re specifically addressing those parts of society which generate wealth.

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        9 days ago

        I think our ideas of how to redistribute them are different, I see your point nonetheless.

        However we don’t live in a society where your ability to produce is directly connected to what you receive from what you produce.

        That’s the main problem with our society, no ceo is 250 times more productive than a line worker.

        I mean you are kind of describing the difference between socialism and communism with that point about productivity.

        Under socialism workers get back a percentage of what THEY put in. Under communism the workers get back a portion of what ALL the workers produce or the revenue of that.