• BlemboTheThird
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    15 days ago

    People didn’t vote. Significantly less turnout this year than 2020. Further left is more exciting than an idiot chasing endorsement from Republicans.

    It’s stupid, but if people weren’t stupid Trump wouldn’t have been a candidate.

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      14 days ago

      2020 had the highest voter turnout in the history of our country because of the pandemic. Without a major motivator like the pandemic, we are not going to hit those numbers again.

      So naturally there will be less voter turnout this year.

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        13 days ago

        Then compare it to 2016 - it was practically the same campaign strategy, only this time it lost the popular vote on top of the electoral collage.

        Trying to flip people at the margin is not a winning strategy. Obama won in '08 by campaigning to the left and promising meaningful change – it got people who normally don’t vote to engage. Why is that strategy so anathema now?

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          13 days ago

          Trump won in 2016 because of Russian bot farms. That has long been common knowledge. The only part that hasn’t yet been verified is whether Trump was in on it.

          Obama wasn’t any further left than Harris. To get anything done after election there needs to be compromise. You can’t get that without moderates.

          It’s public knowledge that Russias strategy is to push the democrats further left and republicans further right so there is no middle ground or compromise and nothing gets done.

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            13 days ago

            Oh, Obama governed as a Regan-era republican. The Affordable Healthcare Act was based on a Heratige Foundation proposal, and given the blessing of health insurance companies. But he campaigned on the left, that line of broken promises got him into office.

            As for the rest… pay no attention to the declining lifespan, the increasing precarity, the rising cost of just scraping by. People aren’t voting because of real grievances, it’s all Russian Bots don’cha know?

            Like, jeeze, you’d rather have a Sinister Villain to peg this on than actually examine the conditions in this country. That’s some saturday morning cartoon nonsense you’ve spun.

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              12 days ago

              Oh, Obama governed as a Regan-era republican. The Affordable Healthcare Act was based on a Heratige Foundation proposal, and given the blessing of health insurance companies. But he campaigned on the left, that line of broken promises got him into office.

              Obama won office for two terms and republicans won this election. If what you’re saying is true then it disproves the claim that democrats didn’t go far enough left according to voters.

              As for the rest… pay no attention to the declining lifespan, the increasing precarity, the rising cost of just scraping by. People aren’t voting because of real grievances, it’s all Russian Bots don’cha know?

              So you’re pretending that foreign nations don’t try to influence the elections while adding in new topics to create a straw man argument. The polls show that voters were most motivated by inflation and immigration and that is what resulted in republicans winning.

              Like, jeeze, you’d rather have a Sinister Villain to peg this on than actually examine the conditions in this country. That’s some saturday morning cartoon nonsense you’ve spun.

              I’m just stating the facts. I’m sorry if they don’t align with your feelings.

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                12 days ago

                The polls show that voters were most motivated by inflation and immigration and that is what resulted in republicans winning

                Just one comment ago, you claimed it was Russian bots. Now you’re agreeing that it’s people feeling economic pressure.

                If what you’re saying is true then it disproves the claim that democrats didn’t go far enough left according to voters.

                If you give people a choice between Republicans and diet-Republicans, they pick the real one. Would you have them try to outflank republicans more next election?

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                  12 days ago

                  You’re either illiterate or intentionally misrepresenting what I said. Two comments ago I said Trump won in 2016 because of bots. I stated what the polls are saying for the 2024 elections d how it contracted your claims.

                  Political ads literally called Biden a radical leftist and that’s what the majority of voters believed as is proven with the election results.