One of the modern mysteries I can’t quite get is people caring so much about paying stuff with cash. Are people out there paying for gas using cash as well? How many people have a car and don’t have a credit card or smartphone? So many questions…
Ever had a moment where you needed to go buy groceries but couldn’t pay because the payment system is down nation wide?
Many people did many times and if you don’t have cash on you, well you can’t pay for shit.
A cashless society is not a good thing. And that is especially dumb since a merchant can’t refuse legal tender, but the federal government is refusing legal tender by doing this.
Ever had a moment where you needed to go buy groceries but couldn’t pay because the payment system is down nation wide?
Never. If it did happen, it’s almost certain that I wouldn’t have the cash on me to pay for it anyway 🤷♂️I’d rather not walk around with more than $100 in cash on me.
since a merchant can’t refuse legal tender
Where does that come from? AFAICT there’s no law that requires businesses to accept cash as a form of payment. Not in Canada, at least.
How do you imagine elderly people that don’t really understand technology would cope with downloading an app or going to a web site to pay for parking.
How can you not have the empathy to think of people that might struggle with things. So many questions…
I happen to prefer not to always have my location tracked by a cell phone company or my transactions recorded by a credit card issuer. The ability to be anonymous is a vital component of freedom. Plus, you can still pay for things in cash if something has wiped out all local network connectivity. And yes, I have been known to pay for gas in cash—not always, but now and again (and an EV doesn’t need gas, anyway, so that question is increasingly irrelevant).
I do not require or expect other people to have the same priorities that I do.
Right… that’s about what I imagine someone fighting against cashless is like. You actually pay for gas in cash and you don’t have a smartphone with Internet.
Kind of ironic that you’re excited about EVs, though.
When I decide to visit a park and arrive to find that I can’t pay cash, it’s a problem. Visiting a park is a transient event, there does not need to be ANY permanent relation between myself and the park operator. There is no reason to require trusting some random site with payment details, generating another set of account credentials, and installing some mystery app that wants way too many permissions just to visit a park.
There is no reason to require trusting some random site with payment details, generating another set of account credentials, and installing some mystery app that wants way too many permissions just to visit a park.
But those are all details that pertain to a specific type of digital payment. Like I said in a different comment, sign me up for better digital payment options and increased privacy guarantees. Sticking to cash is not the only way to achieve this.
Do you like the idea of all our payments for everything going through a private duopoly who takes a cut of every transaction?
I don’t, so sign me up for the fight for better digital options. In fact I frequently advocate for a BoC-managed alternative to Interac. Even the US with its ridiculously contrived banking system is already working on it (FedNow).
But I don’t see the need to wait for that, we can go cashless AND work on better digital options simultaneously.
One of the modern mysteries I can’t quite get is people caring so much about paying stuff with cash. Are people out there paying for gas using cash as well? How many people have a car and don’t have a credit card or smartphone? So many questions…
Ever had a moment where you needed to go buy groceries but couldn’t pay because the payment system is down nation wide?
Many people did many times and if you don’t have cash on you, well you can’t pay for shit.
A cashless society is not a good thing. And that is especially dumb since a merchant can’t refuse legal tender, but the federal government is refusing legal tender by doing this.
Never. If it did happen, it’s almost certain that I wouldn’t have the cash on me to pay for it anyway 🤷♂️I’d rather not walk around with more than $100 in cash on me.
Where does that come from? AFAICT there’s no law that requires businesses to accept cash as a form of payment. Not in Canada, at least.
How do you imagine elderly people that don’t really understand technology would cope with downloading an app or going to a web site to pay for parking.
How can you not have the empathy to think of people that might struggle with things. So many questions…
I happen to prefer not to always have my location tracked by a cell phone company or my transactions recorded by a credit card issuer. The ability to be anonymous is a vital component of freedom. Plus, you can still pay for things in cash if something has wiped out all local network connectivity. And yes, I have been known to pay for gas in cash—not always, but now and again (and an EV doesn’t need gas, anyway, so that question is increasingly irrelevant).
I do not require or expect other people to have the same priorities that I do.
Right… that’s about what I imagine someone fighting against cashless is like. You actually pay for gas in cash and you don’t have a smartphone with Internet.
Kind of ironic that you’re excited about EVs, though.
An EV… So a car that’s tracking you? 😂
Nah, a converted electric milk float. 🤣
When I decide to visit a park and arrive to find that I can’t pay cash, it’s a problem. Visiting a park is a transient event, there does not need to be ANY permanent relation between myself and the park operator. There is no reason to require trusting some random site with payment details, generating another set of account credentials, and installing some mystery app that wants way too many permissions just to visit a park.
But those are all details that pertain to a specific type of digital payment. Like I said in a different comment, sign me up for better digital payment options and increased privacy guarantees. Sticking to cash is not the only way to achieve this.
Do you like the idea of all our payments for everything going through a private duopoly who takes a cut of every transaction?
We don’t have a digital option that’s open or private.
I don’t, so sign me up for the fight for better digital options. In fact I frequently advocate for a BoC-managed alternative to Interac. Even the US with its ridiculously contrived banking system is already working on it (FedNow).
But I don’t see the need to wait for that, we can go cashless AND work on better digital options simultaneously.
The closest thing we have to a private digital cash that is not crypto is GNU Taler.
https://taler.net/