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    This is not someone killed in battle:

    Donald Trump raged when he learned the funeral bill for Vanessa Guillén—the U.S. soldier who was sexually harassed and horrifically murdered by a male soldier at Fort Hood in 2020—cost $60,000, a bombshell report revealed Tuesday.

    Somehow knowing the circumstances of her death makes Trump’s awful remark even nastier. Especially since he is a rapist.

    Guillén, a 20-year-old American of Mexican ancestry from Houston, was buried in her hometown on Aug. 15, 2020. Months later, in December, Trump reportedly asked his advisers in a meeting, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?"

    When an aide responded “yes” with the bill’s total, Trump allegedly unraveled. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f—ing Mexican,” he said, according to people in the meeting who spoke to the Atlantic.

    Trump says vile things every day but this has to be one of the vilest.

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      Damn, he was almost close to making a valid comment about how wildly overpriced funerals are today, then instead went full bore into super racism

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      He followed through with the sentiment too.

      The magazine reported that Trump then turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and ordered him, “Don’t pay it!” That order was apparently heeded by Meadows, as the Atlantic reported that Trump never sent a dime to help cover funeral costs for the slain woman.

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        It’s absolutely vile to invite the mother to the white house, offer to pay, and then later rescind that offer.

        If he’d never offered it wouldn’t matter.

        This is just so so abhorrent, even for trump.

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          Racism aside, if I offered someone to help pay for a funeral, I’d choke in my coffee too if I the bill said $60.000 .

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            True, but you also wouldn’t have the world’s largest economy and one of, if not the, largest governmental budget in the world like Trump does.

            And he also wasn’t paying for it out of his own pocket, it’d come from whatever federal budget covers the costs of military/veteran funerals.

            The entire motivation behind this is clearly racism and sexism, plus his overall disdain for veterans/our military in general. Probably stems from a jealousy he has, since veterans tend to automatically be held in higher esteem than grifters like himself, and he knows he could never have handled bootcamp, nevermind the actual military.

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              He actually did say he was going to pay for it personally, the military might cover some component of it, but it’s in the article saying that he couldn’t reimburse the family through the government:

              Natalie Khawam, the family’s attorney, responded, “I think the military will be paying—taking care of it.” Trump replied, “Good. They’ll do a military. That’s good. If you need help, I’ll help you out.” Later, a reporter covering the meeting asked Trump, “Have you offered to do that for other families before?” Trump responded, “I have. I have. Personally. I have to do it personally. I can’t do it through government.” The reporter then asked: “So you’ve written checks to help for other families before this?” Trump turned to the family, still present, and said, “I have, I have, because some families need help … Maybe you don’t need help, from a financial standpoint. I have no idea what—I just think it’s a horrific thing that happened. And if you did need help, I’m going to—I’ll be there to help you.”

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            Yes, but you wouldn’t:

            • offer to pay
            • without any stipulations
            • while on TV
            • while in the white house
            • as a person that brags about their wealth
            • for a funeral
            • of a military person
            • in a high profile murder

            Any idiot could see that the funeral was going to get out of hand.

            If Trump said he’d by me lunch it’d be the most expensive lunch in history.

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              If someone offers to pay your lunch, or in this case for the funeral of your murdered child, trying to make it ‘the most expensive in history’ to fully abuse that offer just makes you a Sad. person imo. Imagine having it done to you.

              To reiterate: It’d make me happy Donnie almost dies in a fire but is kept in a conscious coma for hundreds of years

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                Well, I don’t care at all if you think I’m sad, but you may have missed your point.

                If my neighbour offered to buy me lunch I would politely insist on contributing in my own way. I don’t really want people to buy things for me. That said, I dislike Trump immensely, he brags about his wealth, and if he offered to pay for something for me because the optics look good, I would absolutely abuse that offer. If it were for my daughters funeral presumably that would occupy my thoughts and I wouldn’t politicise it by using my daughters funeral as a way to steal from trump, but there would be no fucks given about the cost.

                My point is, “someone” offering to buy me lunch is not at all the same as Trump offering to buy me lunch while interviewing me on TV in the whitehouse because it makes him look good.

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                  Sure, I can understand trying to find ways to ‘get’ Trump, but seeing something that is still somewhat of an act of generosity as an opportunity to scam someone…

                  Anyway a) he was probably never going to pay this out of his own personal pocket and b) this just resulted in this family to have to pay for their absurdly lavish funeral themselves

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              Sure, and all disrespect for trump but say I’m rich and crash my car into your fence and tell you “it’s fine just send me the bill”, there’s a difference when that bill turns out to be 60k

              Sounds a bit like the family chose the 'Royale" because of his promise

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                In that case though they either pay it or get sued. Especially if they have receipts from the company for the work.

                Don’t extend generosity no questions asked if you don’t want to follow up on the consequences.

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      But he definitely doesn’t think the same way about the people voting for him…

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        That’s the main point I never understood about his voters. His political agenda and your political affiliation don’t even matter. All you have to understand is that everything he does is for his own benefit. Nobody wants an egoist in charge in a smaller setting - why the fuck elect one as president?

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            He talks in very “us vs them” styles and it seems like a lot of people respond to that thinking the in group is his supporters. It isn’t, but they’re so sure. And it makes sense, he clearly adores his fans. But the in group is him. Everyone else is at risk of joining the out group on his whim

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      And this is an american. Republicans should be afraid he can change whatever “american” is whenever he wants.

      What’s funny is his dumb brain immediately went with “What are the costs? I can blame the dems for cost” without even considering the circumstances

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        This is an American actively serving the country.

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      It’s perfectly emblematic of how Trump doesn’t just ‘other’ people for political gain, it’s built in.

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        You’re missing a verb but you’re probably right.

        Edit: My bad, I misread.

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          They’re using “other” as a verb. “Othering” people, as in racism

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            Oh right, sorry, I missed that. Makes sense now - thanks!

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          I wrapped it in single quotes so it makes more sense. Thanks

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      “This is not someone killed in battle”

      That sentence does not prepare you for the rest… Not that it would excuse Trump at all if they died “normally”. And I would say she definitely died in battle, just not in a war, her battle with the SA and everything is just as valid as anything else. I’d change that sentence if I were you.