Only kinda related but one of the reasons the early christian gnostics gave for questioning the identity of the old testament god is this exact thing. God is supposed to be omniscient but for some reason is confused about what happened with the apple and doesn’t know where Adam is hiding… Interesting to think about… Maybe. Idk.
Which is why there was a counter-culture belief that Jesus was preaching about a higher god than the one in the Torah. The one in the Torah was thought to be basically a spaz who couldn’t do creation correctly and the god of Jesus was more powerful and intelligent. All those texts were destroyed when the Roman church got power.
Just in case you didn’t know, there was a big cache of gnostic texts found in Nag Hammadi but the discovery got overshadowed by the dead sea scrolls. They were very cool to look into and shed a lot of light on pre-romanized Christianity.
Yes, I read The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagel last year. It wasn’t as good as The Origin of Satan, also Pagel (and how I found her). I just finished an excellent book on the historicity of Jesus that had a lot of info on the Gnostics.
Growing up, I just assumed that it was like how when my parent’s dachshund realized she was about to get a bath and would hide under the bed. Sure. they knew where she was the entire time; but they wanted her to come out on their own.
having never quite fully grown up and still DMing for D&D… I can assure you he was just play acting for the plot; so he could bring his DMPC in to save the day. (suffice it to say, god would be a shitty dm, if god existed.)
I think thats a pretty solid interpretation. The gnostics have other points too though, like the vast difference in personality between the vengeful old testament god (which they claim is a separate entity) and the loving new testament god.
Only kinda related but one of the reasons the early christian gnostics gave for questioning the identity of the old testament god is this exact thing. God is supposed to be omniscient but for some reason is confused about what happened with the apple and doesn’t know where Adam is hiding… Interesting to think about… Maybe. Idk.
Which is why there was a counter-culture belief that Jesus was preaching about a higher god than the one in the Torah. The one in the Torah was thought to be basically a spaz who couldn’t do creation correctly and the god of Jesus was more powerful and intelligent. All those texts were destroyed when the Roman church got power.
Just in case you didn’t know, there was a big cache of gnostic texts found in Nag Hammadi but the discovery got overshadowed by the dead sea scrolls. They were very cool to look into and shed a lot of light on pre-romanized Christianity.
Yes, I read The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagel last year. It wasn’t as good as The Origin of Satan, also Pagel (and how I found her). I just finished an excellent book on the historicity of Jesus that had a lot of info on the Gnostics.
I’ll check those out! I find the subject super interesting.
Growing up, I just assumed that it was like how when my parent’s dachshund realized she was about to get a bath and would hide under the bed. Sure. they knew where she was the entire time; but they wanted her to come out on their own.
having never quite fully grown up and still DMing for D&D… I can assure you he was just play acting for the plot; so he could bring his DMPC in to save the day. (suffice it to say, god would be a shitty dm, if god existed.)
I think thats a pretty solid interpretation. The gnostics have other points too though, like the vast difference in personality between the vengeful old testament god (which they claim is a separate entity) and the loving new testament god.
Are you implying they retconned their own god? Blasphemy /s