My phone died a few days ago, and the Cisco Duo app overwrote 2FA key backup after connecting my old phone to the internet.
Lemmy has no backup codes, nor can you disable 2FA even while logged in without a valid token.

Anyway, I noticed there’s no rate limiting on 2FA attempts.
So following Lemmy API docs I wrote this exceptionally stupid script (look at my foolish way of parallelization and no auto-stop).

I got the JWT token from logged-in Firefox session, using cookies.txt extension to export it.

Anyway, just make sure your password is secure enough, It’s obviously (potentially) better than 6 digits, probably with 3 valid combinations at each time (current 30s, past 30s, future 30s windows), if I am guessing how it works right.

My attempt also clearly involved a lot of luck with just 21,830 attempts (less than 5 minutes). But, if you’re lucky enough, you may guess it on first attempt, or never if you aren’t.

  • Darkassassin07English
    116·
    2 months ago

    Anyway, I noticed there’s no rate limiting on 2FA attempts.

    Well that’s mildly horrifying… May as well not even have 2fa. Especially with no failed auth attempt notifications (well, no notifications at all really; I hate this part of lemmy)

    Glad I don’t have/keep anything private here.

    • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      391·
      2 months ago

      Not do downplay this issue, but based on the description, OP had a valid session cookie, and was updating their profile to disable MFA since they lost the code. They weren’t brute forcing logging in.

      I haven’t looked into the source code, maybe this is an instance by instance configuration, but login attempts are rate limited. After a few failed attempts, I started getting this message:

      Lemmy Error: You’re being rate limited, wait a bit before trying that again.

      • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.orgOPEnglish
        27·
        2 months ago

        I just did a manual test with sh.itjust.works comparing it to lemmy.blahaj.zone.

        sh.itjust.works keeps accepting attempts
        lemmy.blahaj.zone blocks after I think 3 attempts (I forgot to pay attention)
        lemmy.ml also blocks after 3 attempts

        sh.itjust.works and lemmy.blahaj.zone even use the same version, lemmy.ml is on a 0.19.6 beta.

        Going further, lemmy.world: no blocking (as far as tested)
        lemm.ee: no blocking (as far as tested)
        sopuli.xyz: after 10 attempts

        Summary: SDF is using old version, the rate limiting seems to be variable suggesting a setting

        Analysis: lemmy.ml, lemmy.blahaj.zone and sopuli.xyz appear to be exposed directly (.zone doesn’t respond without SNI, other 2 show NGINX page). NGINX can pass client IPs in headers. The rate limiting appears to be IP-based.
        sh.itjust.works, lemmy.world and lemm.ee are all behind CloudFlare.

        Hypothesis: Either a problem with passing client IP headers from cloudflared or the instance admins simply trust CloudFlare to provide some rate limiting.

        • Darkassassin07English
          4·
          2 months ago

          a problem with passing client IP headers from cloudflared

          I’d be willing to bet this is it. My nginx proxy needs special config to pass client IPs correctly to backend services. Otherwise the backend just sees the IP of the proxying cloudflare server.

          proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $http_cf_connecting_ip;

          A cloudflare specific header. The typical $remote_addr I use elsewhere has the cloudflare server’s IP when cloudflared is involved.

    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      2 months ago

      2FA in lemmy is a gimmick more than anything else, it’s more trouble than it is worth and comes with a significant risk of losing your account. It is better than it used to be but I still wouldn’t consider it good. Best to just not use it.