• SpaceCowboy
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    3 hours ago

    Yes, people in Gaza are human. And like all humans, they have a responsibility for their actions. Hamas committed genocide on October 7 and are continuing to hold hostages. It’s almost a year now, isn’t it time for Palestinians to start admitting that Hamas is bad for them?

    All we see is support for Hamas or excuses for their actions. Or just looking the other way. Can anyone point to any real protest against Hamas by Palestinians? I can understand people living in Gaza and the West Bank may be too afraid to speak out against Hamas, but people who have left the country? Where are the Palestinian voices denouncing Hamas?

    When German cities were bombed to ruin in WWII, the German people realized the hateful movement they succumbed to was not good for them. Afterwards Germany was rebuilt into a peaceful prosperous country. When will Palestinians come to the same conclusion that Germans made?

    All I see now is people painting Israel as evil for doing pretty much the same thing the Allies did to Germany in WWII. Being influenced into the hatred Hamas espouses. This conflict will not come to an end by promoting hatred of Israel. It can only end when people recognize their hatred is destroying themselves.

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      Remarkable Gish Gallop here, a whole string of ahistorical nonsense. To cite one example, what’s Israel’s equivalent of the Marshall Plan, then?

      (E: word order)

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        Read your history. The Marshall plan didn’t happen while the Nazis were running things in Germany. it happened after Germany’s unconditional surrender.

        So when is Hamas going to surrender unconditionally?

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      Gish gallop.

      Bottom line: Israel is a genocidal regime. Women, children, aid workers, reporters, Israel kills them all. The regime needs stopping. Now.

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        Bottom line: In Gaza there are urban combat operations in a urban area against non-uniformed combatants. Despite this, the total number of casualties (both combatants and non combatants, the numbers aren’t broken down) are less than the casualties this year in Ukraine.

        Yes civilians die in war, especially when it’s being being fought in urban areas. This war is being fought in urban areas because that’s where Hamas is holding Israelis hostage in those areas. If you really cared about the toll on the civilian population you’d be calling on Hamas to release the hostages. But you aren’t because you don’t care about the civilian deaths for anything other than as a propaganda tool.

        You guys can preach these kinds of things to each other, but you aren’t fooling anyone outside of your little group. People aren’t listening to you because they don’t care about Palestinians. People do care about Palestinians. It’s just that everyone is catching on to the fact that YOU don’t actually care about Palestinians and you’re just using them as a tool in a campaign against Israel. Shameful.