• bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      People who hate america in such a way that they start liking those who oppose it.

      Like, hating america is fine, this is a horrid country, there’s not much to love for many minority communities. Hating america because of political views is also fine, our politics suck.

      Some people create two camps: pro america groups, and anti-america groups. If they want to oppose america, the only logical choice is to support the opposing camp.

      At least, that’s my theory.

      I don’t see how you can be pro-taliban without being either in line with their views, or just seeing the world as having two sides and sticking to one arbitrary side.

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        3 months ago

        I really want to disagree with you because conservatives have been pretty consistently anti-taliban for a long time, with the extreme end going mask off racist.

        Unfortunately because of how completely fucked Trump is I’ve seen conservatives arguing in favour of relations with the Taliban in the recent shitshow discussions surrounding the exit from Afghanistan.

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          I mean… on the right side, we have what you are describing, as well as many conservatives just outright being pro-Russian invasion of Ukraine, with some now literally moving to the former Soviet Union they despised 30 years ago so that they can legally beat their wives and never have to see an openly gay or trans person.

          This is fairly straightforward: They’re religious, traditional conservatives who love hierarchy and hate and fear ‘weird’ people as an animating drive in politics. Y’all Qaeda, just another flavor of fundamentalism.

          On the left side, you have people who take their support for anything standing against American dominance and imperialism so far that they are openly in favor of China taking over Taiwan, totally denying or massively downplaying the Holodomor or Uighur encampments/persecution, saying they support Yemeni pirate-terrorists just shooting missiles at any cargo ship of any nation or destination that cruises nearby.

          A person I used to be close to, and thought I had reasonably similar politics with, described Hu Jintao being basically arrested and disappeared extremely publicly as part of a CCP conference as… him being placed into witness protection due to a threat on his life.

          That makes literally 0 sense.

          Hell, I myself started in a conservative family, got lost in the ancap sauce for a while, then discovered oh, there’s basically nothing anarchist about any kind of capitalism, capitalism’s prime function is to aggregate power, replace all ‘free markets’ with monopolies and oligopolies, ancapism is basically total bullshit that stole the word anarchist from left wing movements, and then I read Baukunin and Kropotkin.

          Now I’m just tired lol.

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      3 months ago

      Most people outside the USA-Europe and an ever growing number of people inside there too

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      3 months ago

      No one in that thread…

      OP is either not understanding stuff or just making shit up.

      Probably why they didn’t link the post, just their shitty meme