• MystikIncarnate
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    3 months ago

    I hate the whole x is manly/masculine crap.

    Most of the time it’s just glorifying highschool jock behavior. Some stereotype of an alpha chad with their “masculinity” dialed up to toxic.

    I’m a dude and you know what I think is manly/masculine? Being a good person, paying bills, working and earning money for your family, being a good parent to your kids, taking responsibility when you make a mistake and trying to fix it, respecting people property, boundaries, rights, and freedoms. Generally being helpful, productive, and kind.

    Otherwise known as being a productive member of society.

    You can be deficient in some of these areas too, like earning money to support your family, maybe your spouse is the breadwinner and you’re the stay-at-home parent. That’s good too. If you don’t have offspring, then we can waive the parenting stuff. Etc.

    And these things don’t just apply to men, they can all be applied to women too, because being manly to me, is more about being a good human.

    Anyone pushing a different narrative, to me, is someone pushing for people to be garbage.

    I don’t care what you have between your legs, or whether you have kids or not, or whether those kids are your biological offspring or not. I don’t care what color you are, where you come from, who you love, what your job is, how much you make, what diplomas or degrees you have, or what God you may, or may not believe in.

    Be kind to eachother. Support your friends and family. Be a productive member of society. Be a good human.

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      3 months ago

      It’s all about defining the “in-group” to exclude people they don’t like. It starts with not liking the person, then looking for a behaviour they can call “not masculine/feminine” because the worst thing you can be is not representative of your gender.

      No one has ever said that drinking a milkshake with a straw is unmanly. But Tim Walz did it, and we don’t like Tim Walz, and if the out-group does it then it must be bad.

      This is also why calling them “weird” bothers them so much. “Weird” means you’re part of the out-group. However, the average person doesn’t exist, everyone has something they do that the average person doesn’t. You tell a person without an in-group out-group obsession that something they do is “weird” and they won’t care and continue enjoying their life. Someone who is obsessed with being part of the in-group will feel ashamed about not being average and try to hide it. It’s an impossible standard they expect out of themselves and everyone around them.

      Also, isn’t obsessing over how a man drinks his milkshake with a straw kind of weird?

      • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk
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        3 months ago

        The weirdest thing of all is even if you buy into the bullshit, what is it that trump does that’s traditionally manly? I can’t think of a single “manly” thing associated with him.

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          3 months ago

          “Saying what he means” and never apologizing or admitting being wrong. Typical toxic masculinity bullshit.