• MindTraveller
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    3 months ago

    I’m curious. You eat meat, but you’re not in favour of massacres. Alright, explain it to me.

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      3 months ago

      I’m not in favor of it, but I’m not going to stop eating meat. The second lab grown meat is available to people in my economic tier I’ll switch exclusively to that.

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        3 months ago

        I’m really hoping that lab grown meat will be available soon. I have a weird genetic issue where my body doesn’t like to absorb certain vitamins from food so I get basically nothing from raw veggies, negligible amounts from cooked veggies, and a tiny bit more from meat, eggs and dairy.

        I take prescription vitamins, but according to my Dr I need to eat meat/animal products with them or risk going into a deficiency again… the last time I was deficient I had seizures and serious neurological issues.

        I hate the meat industry and factory farming, but also want my brain to function and to not have seizures.

        Lab grown meat will solve this dilemma for me.

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          I also have severe malabsorption and can’t process most veg at all. I have been told hundreds of times that I am lying, and that I don’t need to eat meat. To some of these people it is better for us to suffer than to eat meat, while they claim to subscribe to a philosophy of reducing suffering.

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            Yeah, it’s frustrating to say the least.

            If I went vegan I’d probably suffer a very slow, agonizing death from my brain going haywire and seize until I go into psychosis and die. If my body could take it I’d probably be a vegetarian and eat only local eggs and cheese, but it’s a bad idea according to my doctor. It sucks.

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          3 months ago

          Dam, man, that sucks. Hey, quick question, if they made lab grown human meat, would you try it?

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            3 months ago

            Grown from my own cells? Fuck yes.

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                With consent, and with cells from someone I know/love - Sure!

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            Absolutely! I’m hoping it’s available soon since it’s more ethical than my current options.

            Edit - missed the human part lmao. I would probably try it if it hurt no one and was offered to me

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        3 months ago

        Ah, so you’re saying you don’t like it, but you find it an acceptable sacrifice to make in exchange for yummy food?

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          100% yes. I am fully aware that being vegan is, in my opinion, the more ethical option but I can and will continue to eat meat because 1 it’s cheap, it’s plentiful, I know how to and can cook with it well and because yes it tastes so fucking good. I don’t mean this as a 3edgy5me thing but fuck me I love a nice ribeye stake with butter and garlic cloves and a baked potato.

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            3 months ago

            Okay, but you have to know about plant-based steaks and vegan butter. And of course you know about vegan garlic and vegan potato, because all garlic and potato is vegan. What’s the extra cost of a vegan steak compared to an animal steak in your area? In mine it’s around 3 dollars.

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              3 months ago

              I have never seen a plant based stake at my local grocery stores. The next time I am there to pick out a stake, I will also look and ask specifically for a plant based one, and I will try it. But I have had other stuff like plant based burgers, and while they are ok, they just can’t hold up to the taste of a meat burger.

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              plant-based steaks

              I’ve tried plenty of different plant based meat substitutes and so for, not one of them can hold a candle to the real taste. Like, it is not even close in my opinion. I can see the market for it, but plant based diet can be incredible when not trying to impersonate meat. Like lentils with curry. Not meat required and super tasty.

              So would argue that meat substitutes are the wrong way to go if you want to eat tasty non meat stuff.

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                Plant-based meat tastes like what vegans think meat tastes like. I’d much rather eat the vegan foods that are prepared without imitation ingredients.

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                I’m not vegan but I eat plenty of incidentally vegan meals, and all of the best ones have been the ones that weren’t trying to imitate another food. They just can’t get the texture right and I’d rather not eat some squishy disc of beans and wheat while trying to convince myself it’s a burger. It’s not. I know it’s not and pretending doesn’t make it any more of one. Give me a good soup or curry or pasta dish instead.

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      3 months ago

      Never fails in a discussion about how fundamentally shitty vegans are that there will be a ton of vegans invading the thread to prove the point definitively.