• masterofn001
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    29 days ago

    Like bibi cared if they lived or died.

    “Getting the hostages back” is the reason bibi keeps accidentally dropping bombs on kids and trying to start ww3.

    If there’s no hostages…

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        29 days ago

        It’s clear bibi is not bargaining.

        So, what would be the point?

        Either kill them because bibi doesn’t care, blame it on bibi.

        Or release them all, and then watch bibi continue to slaughter kids, because bibi doesn’t care.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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          Because the other option is to fight until everyone is dead? Maybe they should care about Gazans and not do that?

          I mean you’re basically saying give up and die.

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              How about all the Palestinians who aren’t part of this resistance and just don’t want anyone to kill them? You know, like all the children? Maybe don’t just sacrifice them for the glorious revolution?

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                  29 days ago

                  Or how about rather than finger pointing and saying, “blame them if all the children die in the glorious revolution,” solutions should be found so that doesn’t happen?

                  Why is stopping innocent people from dying not a consideration for so many people here? Just saying “blame Israel” doesn’t stop Israel from killing people. It’s not a solution.

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                    29 days ago

                    You want kids to stop dying? Ask israel to stop it’s colonization and killing them

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                You know Israel routinely kills Palestinians regardless of this conflict or not. They were dying before and will die after as long as Israel is around.

                Maybe don’t sacrifice them to keep the human right abuse and genocidal status quo?

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                  28 days ago

                  Yet again- what is the solution to save lives? Because I keep hearing people suggesting that Israel will just kill everyone and, despite what someone else said, asking Israel to stop is not going to work.

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                    28 days ago

                    Should Ukraine surrender to Russia because it would save lives by ending the war?

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            29 days ago

            Not.at.all.

            I’m saying it doesn’t matter if they show any goodwill or they are saints, or if they mass murder them in public.

            Bibi doesn’t care.

            Bibi, and a lot of others are genocidal maniacs.

            The only option bibi leaves is to fight back.

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              They are fighting back.

              They’re also massively outgunned, so they will lose eventually. At the expense of the rest of Gazans. Why is that an acceptable outcome to you rather than a negotiated ceasefire?

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                29 days ago

                Because bibi DOESNT CARE.

                There will NEVER BE A NEGOTIATED CEASEFIRE.

                Bibi is fucking evil.

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                  So, again, you’re saying just let all the Gazans die.

                  Because without a negotiated ceasefire, whether you think it will happen or not (and I would love to borrow your crystal ball), that is what will happen.

                  There will be no other outcome.

                  That is not acceptable.

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                    I believe they are saying that thanks to Bibi, there can’t be a cease-fire. They aren’t advocating for them to kill the hostages or hand them all over, they are saying regardless of what happens with the hostages Bibi is going to continue to indiscriminately kill Gazans. In a tongue in cheek manner it was suggested Bibi is using the hostages as an excuse for continued attacks, so if there aren’t hostages, there’s no excuse. I don’t think that was an honest suggestion, just gallows humor. But the point is valid that Bibi doesn’t actually care about the hostages and will keep genociding to his heart’s content.

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      They don’t give a fuck about the hostages, they think they can become more justifiably unhinged the more hostages die.

      I guess they do give a fuck about the hostages, but not in the way you’d usually care about them.