The event was combative from the start as Trump and three moderators from the National Association of Black Journalists sparred throughout.

Vice President Kamala Harris’ race took center stage in a combative back-and-forth exchange with former President Donald Trump during a panel discussion Wednesday at a gathering of Black journalists in Chicago.

“I did not know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black and now wants to be known as Black,” Trump said.

“I respect either one," he added, "but she obviously doesn’t, because she was Indian all the way, and then all of a sudden, she made a turn and she went she became Black. … Somebody should look into that too.”

It was in response to a question about the appropriateness of some Republicans saying Harris is a “DEI hire,” a term referring to workplace policies promoting “diversity, equity and inclusion.” It has increasingly been used by some on the right to discredit people of colorwith opposing political views.

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    Narcissist means either disabled neurodivergent, or asexual. Trump is neither of these things, he’s a privileged fascist asshole and he’s weird.

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        The word is based on a Greek guy, Narcissus, who rejected all sexual and romantic advances. One of the suitors he spurned prayed to Nemesis that he should love what he cannot have. So Nemesis made him fall in love with his reflection and starve to death. It’s a story about how hostile Greek culture was to asexuality. Nemesis is the god of divine punishment for hubris. The Greeks didn’t understand asexuality, and thought it meant that the person in question thought they were above all other mortals. This is where the association with big ego comes from. It’s from Greeks misunderstanding asexuality as hubris.

        Also Narcissus was 16. Anyone who thinks he was the bad guy in that story is a pedo. And anyone who uses “n*rcissist” as an insult is sus

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          That’s interesting context on the root of the word, but just because the name of the personality disorder was inspired by Greek mythology doesn’t mean the word’s use today is invalid.

          Words change and adapt new meanings. Etymology tracks where words come from, but those roots don’t dictate how new words are formed. The word “narcissism” has been in use for over 100 years and while people might know it has ties to the myth, there isn’t anyone who would use it to mean “this person is just like Narcissus.”

          If we followed your logic, we’d have to stop using words like atlas, cereal, music, mentor, morphine, nemesis, and so many other words that come from names of people/gods in Greek mythology lest someone assume we mean some detail from the inspiring myth that most people don’t even know about.

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            Well sure. The word can also be an ableist slur for people with NPD. That’s the most common way it’s used these days.

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              That’s the most common way it’s used these days.

              Or I suppose they could also mean ‘excessive preoccupation with or admiration of oneself’, such as in this case

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          Lol, first, lots of english words have their origin in greek or roman historical figures but few of them actually bear any resemblance to their origin in contemporary usage

          second, the common usage likely came from the fact that Narcissus was in love with himself, not that he was asexual

          Casting the usage of the word ‘narcissist’ as being an intentional reference to a marginalized sexual preference instead of it’s common and even documented definitions is a bit overzealous

          You do you though.

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            Narcissus was cursed to fall in love with his reflection by a god. It’s not actually one of his character traits, it’s just how he died. The story is one of Greeks mistaking asexuality for egotism. If someone uses the cultural reference, I’m going to assume they’ve mistaken asexuality for egotism and they’re probably a pedo.

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      I assure you, it does not mean “neurodivergent” and most neurodivergent people are not narcissistic. However, capitalism, isolation, insecurity (advertising), lack of community, hyperindividualism, all creates a good recipe for creating a nation of narcissistic people. And so we get lots of flavors:

      -intellectual narcissists: only “smart” people are valid, and they determine who and what are smart ofc as if it was objective.

      -moral narcissists: super common, only “moral” position is theirs, they are an extremely good person in their eyes and a savior who must give “help” and “advice”

      -financial narcissists: don’t even need to be rich, just have to feel superior to people poorer than themselves. Tons of them monitor homeless people to an EXTREMELY CREEPY level and may even involve some moral narcissism by claiming the homeless are all bad people who steal, or physical narcissism by claiming all homeless are drug addicts

      -physical narcissists: lots of varieties

      –weight narcissists: feel superior based on their weight compared to others. Whether that’s being big or little.

      –physical competency narcissists: often have phobias about physical disability, often will excessively loft and may even abuse steroids or other drugs to be in “perfect” health

      –beauty narcissists: see The Picture of Dorian Gray, think of people who will only associate with other beautiful people (and for a bonus game, think of how these types of narcissists pay for programs that are basically eugenics along these parameters - the Olympics, modeling, beauty pageants, actors amd actresses, MENSA, churches, etc - they all try to fish for people with good genes so they can live vicariously through their child, a life free of shame and uncomfortable emotions. ).

      –racial narcissists: white supremacists, other racial superiority groups

      –gender narcissists: incels, misogynists, transphobes

      Look for things like:

      1. an inability to perspective take, can’t agree to disagree
      2. demand for perfectionism. Their version of “perfect” is based on value statements, not anything actually measurable or achievable (so they can always keep you striving).
      3. Sensitive to shame and jealousy
      4. Entitled, controlling

      So eg a parent who is a gender narcissist (to use the term loosely) like Elon Musk will react by

      1. ignoring the other person’s wants, concerns, thoughts
      2. demand their kid be “perfect” to Elon’s standards (which will never be achievable- there will always be another demand)
      3. Use their kids as a proxy to enact their shame through, get wildly jealous when their kids surpass the shame they feel because they themselves can’t escape it. Meaning, Elon feels shame and jealousy that his daughter did what he could never do - endure the “shame” of being trans.
      4. He thinks it’s appropriate to force her and others to be cis, and he tries to publicly shame her (he thinks everyone is sensitive to shame like he is, bc he can’t perspective take) to force her into good behavior

      The formula becomes quite clear and predictable once you understand what’s happening. That’s VERY different than someone with low serotonin counting tiles over and over again, or someone with a panic attack crying from fear. Partially because it’s a series of beliefs that can theoretically be unlearned over time. There’s no medication for it because it’s like learning a language incorrectly - how can you make someone forget a whole language with a drug? You can’t, you just start where they are at and teach them as much as they can learn and WANT to learn, each day. This is the impact individuals have on culture.

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        Hey look it’s pseudoscience. Also your username appropriates Austronesian culture disrespectfully. Makes sense. Bigots in one area tend to be problematic in other ways.

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          How does it appropriate Austronesian culture disrespectfully? It’s a childhood nickname and not related to the concept of Mana in video games.

          Can you define pseudoscience and explain how that definition applies to the field of psychology?

          Do you think morality is objective or subjective?

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            You fell for their distraction. They disregarded your argument, then attacked you so that you would defend yourself.

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              Maybe if I was bad at arguing. But if they answer the questions I’ve given them, I have another point that confirms my argument quite nicely. That they haven’t answered is likely because they see the trap and want to avoid it. They gave up. That’s fine, I still won the argument if they withdraw.