It’s a legitimate complaint. In my part of Canada we have several pride parades led by pro-Palestinian groups, which is absurd not only because there are no Palestinians in it, but because nearly everybody in the parade would be persecuted in Palestine. A trans rights group I’ve been involved in for a while had a faction break away because we weren’t pro-Palestine enough (whatever that means).
I support the creation of a Palestinian state, but queer support of that cause must come with support of queer people in Palestine, rather than pretending they don’t exist.
Edit: also, nice nose on that comic. Time to check OP’s post history…
The reason trans groups openly support Palestine is because Israel is actively involved in Pinkwashing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT). AKA Using gay people as an excuse to commit ethnic cleansing.
By taking away that shield Israel loses social support. Also noteworthy is that gay marriage is banned in Israel.
The status of queer people in Palestine has nothing to do with Israel. There is absolutely nothing preventing Palestinians from stopping their persecution of their queer brothers and sisters. Deflections like yours are exactly part of the problem - you are throwing queer Palestinians under the bus just to fuel your crusade against Israel. What you are doing is actively harmful to LGBTQ+ rights.
If it has nothing to do with Israel why do so many Zionists bring it up gay Palestinians in their debates?
Do you believe Israel genuinely cares about gay Palestinians?
Edit: Also Israel gave Hamas suitcases with cash to keep them in power. So you are wrong about Israel not being complicit. Palestinians have no self-governance because huge outside powers keep meddling in their affairs.
If it has nothing to do with Israel why do so many Zionists bring it up gay Palestinians in their debates?
It’s convenient for them to do so. It makes them hypocrites, but broken clock etc.
Do you believe Israel genuinely cares about gay Palestinians?
No, but again, what does that have to do with the way Palestinians treat their own?
Edit: Also Israel gave Hamas suitcases with cash to keep them in power. So you are wrong about Israel not being complicit. Palestinians have no self-governance because huge outside powers keep meddling in their affairs.
This is true, but I have yet to see any indication that self-rule would improve the lot of queer Palestinians. Their countrymen are overwhelmingly against them, and that is unacceptable. I don’t care about religion or arbitrary lines drawn on a map — I care about human rights.
Palestinians are actively being exterminated in a genocide. Their right to life should not be contingent on anything. Neither should one’s opposition to genocide.
That’s a pretty creative interpretation of what I said. Whether a person is queer or not should not affect their support for a Palestinian state. My comment was specifically regarding the championing of Palestine in the context of a pride parade without also explicitly calling out the plight of queer Palestinians, something I have not seen any of them do. Without that, it’s akin to a workers’ rights march promoting the UAE.
It’s not though. Because of the slaughter. The slaying of beings. You forgot about the indiscriminate technological ending of human lives using unstoppable weapons that target civilians. There’s a racial killing arena that you forgot. Almost there
It’s a legitimate complaint. In my part of Canada we have several pride parades led by pro-Palestinian groups, which is absurd not only because there are no Palestinians in it, but because nearly everybody in the parade would be persecuted in Palestine. A trans rights group I’ve been involved in for a while had a faction break away because we weren’t pro-Palestine enough (whatever that means).
I support the creation of a Palestinian state, but queer support of that cause must come with support of queer people in Palestine, rather than pretending they don’t exist.
Edit: also, nice nose on that comic. Time to check OP’s post history…The reason trans groups openly support Palestine is because Israel is actively involved in Pinkwashing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT). AKA Using gay people as an excuse to commit ethnic cleansing.
By taking away that shield Israel loses social support. Also noteworthy is that gay marriage is banned in Israel.
The status of queer people in Palestine has nothing to do with Israel. There is absolutely nothing preventing Palestinians from stopping their persecution of their queer brothers and sisters. Deflections like yours are exactly part of the problem - you are throwing queer Palestinians under the bus just to fuel your crusade against Israel. What you are doing is actively harmful to LGBTQ+ rights.
If it has nothing to do with Israel why do so many Zionists bring it up gay Palestinians in their debates?
Do you believe Israel genuinely cares about gay Palestinians?
Edit: Also Israel gave Hamas suitcases with cash to keep them in power. So you are wrong about Israel not being complicit. Palestinians have no self-governance because huge outside powers keep meddling in their affairs.
It’s convenient for them to do so. It makes them hypocrites, but broken clock etc.
No, but again, what does that have to do with the way Palestinians treat their own?
This is true, but I have yet to see any indication that self-rule would improve the lot of queer Palestinians. Their countrymen are overwhelmingly against them, and that is unacceptable. I don’t care about religion or arbitrary lines drawn on a map — I care about human rights.
Palestinians are actively being exterminated in a genocide. Their right to life should not be contingent on anything. Neither should one’s opposition to genocide.
Did you reply to the wrong person? Because this doesn’t appear to have anything to do with what I said.
You said that queer support of a Palestinian state should be contingent on their tolerance of gayness.
That’s a pretty creative interpretation of what I said. Whether a person is queer or not should not affect their support for a Palestinian state. My comment was specifically regarding the championing of Palestine in the context of a pride parade without also explicitly calling out the plight of queer Palestinians, something I have not seen any of them do. Without that, it’s akin to a workers’ rights march promoting the UAE.
It’s not though. Because of the slaughter. The slaying of beings. You forgot about the indiscriminate technological ending of human lives using unstoppable weapons that target civilians. There’s a racial killing arena that you forgot. Almost there
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/mar/11/up-to-10000-asian-migrant-workers-die-in-the-gulf-every-year-claims-report
We’ve been over this, normal people don’t question the nose size of their wojak memes
Thanks for the source on that. It’s still questionable to choose it for this context specifically, but I crossed out my statement.
There are queer people in Gaza and they are being bombed just like everyone else.