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    What you don’t seem to realize is how politics works. Everyone running around regurgitating what they saw some headline say and screaming in panic that they’re going to lose will make them lose.

    You want to know why Trump supporters rally around him no matter what? It’s not because they’re idiots (though most are), it’s because they actually understand the importance of projecting strength as a collective and using that to shape a narrative into reality.

    Yes Biden fucked up at the debate, but you know whats actually causing him to lose support? Everyone talking and publishing articles about him sounding hoarse and that meaning he has to quit, non stop. They’re not doing it because they have anyone else they think can actually beat Trump, they’re doing it because it made them scared and now they’re panicking and turning it into a self fulfilling prophecy (and in many cases, because they have an article quota to fill and they can capitalize on audiences feeling nervous after the debate by feeding that fear to get clicks in the most bombastic way).

    Biden seemed old. Trump seems old literally every week. No one is watching that debate and changing their mind to vote for the mean forgetful lying pervert geriatric who shits himself over the geriatric.

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      What you don’t seem to realize is how politics works.

      Christ, this shit again. Every last time a centrist gets called out on their bullshit, they pull out this gaslighty chestnut.

      Everyone running around regurgitating what they saw some headline say and screaming in panic that they’re going to lose will make them lose.

      Sure. It’s not like you were gonna blame anyone but the left when a neoliberal earns a loss. We warn you and you do something pigheaded and stupid anyway, and then you blame us.

      Yes Biden fucked up at the debate, but you know whats actually causing him to lose support?

      Him fucking up at the debate, in addition to his unconditional support for Netanyahu’s genocide.

      Everyone talking and publishing articles about him sounding hoarse and that meaning he has to quit, non stop.

      “We finally beat Medicare” isn’t hoarse. Forgetting which question he’s answering isn’t hoarse. Getting in a pissy little slapfight about fucking GOLF isn’t hoarse.

      You just want everyone to your left to shut up and be happy. And maybe vote, as a tertiary priority.

      Biden seemed old. Trump seems old literally every week.

      Biden IS old. Not hoarse, not suffering from a cold, not hit with an energy weapon, not overprepared, not jet lagged, not any of the other ridiculous excuses that the “you don’t know how anything works now shut up” crowd insults everyone within earshot by expecting them to buy. The sun wasn’t in his eyes. The dog didn’t eat his homework.

      Trump seems old literally every week.

      He sure fucking does. And we need someone who can beat him. Biden is no longer that candidate. His debate performance wasn’t a fluke and there’s no way in hell you don’t know it.

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        Sure. It’s not like you were gonna blame anyone but the left when a neoliberal earns a loss. We warn you and you do something pigheaded and stupid anyway, and then you blame us.

        Oh ok, well atleast you’re not being reactionary and judgemental and immediately thinking you know everything about me and what I want and that I’m an other who opposes you.

        Good thing to know I’m talking with someone clairvoyant, thank you!

        You just want everyone to your left to shut up and be happy. And maybe vote, as a tertiary priority.

        No I want people on the left to learn how to win a fucking election by supporting the most likely candidate to win instead of wringing their hands and min/maxing whatever their particular naiive priority is.

        I repeat what I said and you didn’t address. No one watched that debate and changed their mind to vote for Trump.

        Yeah, Biden is older than ideal, unless you have a better option, shut the fuck up. If you’re better option is just “I dunno anyone else” then you’re just tearing down Biden with no replacement and need to shut the fuck up.

        If you wanna make a case for why Gavin Belsom Newsom is a better candidate who can beat Trump I’m all ears.

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          You just want everyone to your left to shut up and be happy. And maybe vote, as a tertiary priority.

          No I want people on the left to learn how to win a fucking election by supporting the most likely candidate to win

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            Again, name who you think will beat him or shut The. Fuck. Up.

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              No. And goodness, can’t you read? Didn’t you see everyone else make that exact demand, in this very thread? Didn’t you see it answered? Now, you demand the question answered, again. But it was answered. You did not hear it.

              If you’re not the type to read then why do you believe you deserve my time? Maybe the one who should be silent is you… I mean at least until you catch up.