• jmiller@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Nissan Sakura and Mitsubishi eK X EV are $14-16k, but are only for sale in Japan. Nissan closed orders for the Sakura because they already had more orders than capacity to make them. We need vehicles like that everywhere! That would drive EV adoption far, far more than another “affordable” $45k SUV.

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        I’m always curious about what I understand to be the kei cars. We don’t have many in the US bc they supposedly do not meet safety rules. But we had some - what is the hold up, just sales expectations? A used one of these would possibly be in my price range.

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          I believe they are kei cars. I looked up the safety ratings on them when I heard about them, and the D.O.T. equivalent board that rated them gave them 5 stars. But it could be that was a kei car specific rating. It did show diagrams with front and side air bags, and all the electronic crash avoidance systems. It’s bigger and seems like it would be safer than a smart car. I honestly think the hold up is that if we had options like that in the US fewer bigger, more expensive, cars would be sold. Maybe not a lot fewer, but enough fewer that it is overall more profitable not to offer them.

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        11 months ago

        Sure, I’m eyeing a nice cargo bike for a year now. But that also is still tool expensive: I bought my second hand car 5 years for 6k€ and a cargo bike now is around 4k€

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          11 months ago

          Yeah it is still expensive “for a bike” but you save on gas, insurance, maintenance, and health!

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        11 months ago

        What about the winter? A bike isn’t going to get me to the ski hill, or even across town when it’s snowing or the roads are icy.

        Even in the summer, I can’t put my mountain bike on a bike (yes I know). I can’t put my kayak on a bike.

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          11 months ago

          Or maybe a billion dollar research grant to get solid state batteries out, which seem to solve all of these problems

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          11 months ago

          Hmm, you sound like you’re describing electric cargo bike 😉 But seriously, much lower dead weight to actually carried ratio, lower speeds… The only missing part of the puzzle is safe infrastructure (separate lanes, prioritized traffic etc.)

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            Eh I usually go around with my non-cargo and non-ev bike and it solves around 90% of my mobility problems. The rest is unfortunately up to the car since going to office means 2 hours of train + tram + walking but by car it’s around 35-40 minutes including finding a parking spot. And then there’s the occasional very large and big item (like furniture and tools) that I need to bring around and my car is sometimes not big enough for that, forget about a cargo bike.

            I’d rather rent a car when I need it, but it’s around 120€ per day, max 100km, plus gasoline and it is unpractical because you don’t know of there are cars available. Once I needed to bring a big table and it was cheaper to hire a moving company for a couple of hours than renting the big SUV and do by myself

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              11 months ago

              Your 90% bike usage already lessens the environmental impact of your driving, while also adding personal health benefits, so please keep doing that 🙏