Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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      They’re supporting commercialized, walled-garden social media platforms instead of ones that are publicly accessible

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      Because it sends a message that they do not support community-driven projects and will instead support large, corporate social media.

      It would not have meant anything if they were never on Mastodon in the first place.

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    Can you even use Reddit if you’re running Proton’s VPN? I know Reddit has been actively blocking other VPNs (eg Mullvad) for some time.

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    Makes me glad that I procrastinated on switching over, I guess I’ll just ride out my current NordVPN subscription and switch over to Mullvad?

    Almost makes me afraid to ask the community, what exactly is wrong with Nord? 😅

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      Unless you never want to torrent, I would say to not use mullvad, you can’t forward a port with them (same with NordVPN). There are plenty of VPNs that don’t log and allow port forwarding. I use AirVPN.

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        I’ve not encountered any issues filling up my NAS with torrented Linux ISOs via NordVPN?

        My priority for a VPN has just been no logging and the ability to ‘travel’ internationally… so if there the case, no need to rush out and switch then?

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    Does anyone know of a good alternative to simple login? They’re owned my proton too and I have about 150+ aliases to move

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        I had it for over a year and then, one day, every time I stepped outside my home, it would go into “connecting…” and never come back.

        I’d have to go into settings and completely deleted it, then re-add. I gave up, and went to proton. Literally zero issues until the ceo started praising nazis

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        Unless you never want to torrent, I would not choose mullvad. Torrenting requires port forwarding if you properly want to give back to the community, which mullvad doesn’t support.

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    It’s as if with each passing day, Proton wakes up and chooses to wear a slightly different red flag for a cape than the one they wore yesterday. I’m obviously being hyperbolic here, but I’m also a bit upset with myself for having decided to get an annual subscription with them last November.

    I’ve heard good things about Mullvad for VPN and Tuta for mail. I’ve got my own domain that I can start using with whatever mail host I land on.

    I’m in the U.S. What other mail providers are people using, and what other VPN providers should I be considering?

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      If you ever want to torrent, some service that allows port forwarding, like AirVPN or PureVPN. A popular alternative of mullvad does not allow this.

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      I’ve used Mullvad VPN for almost a year and it’s amazing. I only switched to Proton because I use all their services.

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    Looks like I’m leaving Proton. Fucking hell, not even a year ago I migrated from Gmail

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      Learn your lesson and switch to a custom domain :) that way you will never have to change all your services’ email addresses anymore, when you want to switch mail provider.

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      SAME! I only just finished getting all my servers and custom domain set up, and I already have to look for a new provider.

      If someone has any recommendations for a good hosted email, VPN and online storage provider let us know. It seems there’s not many good options left.

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    I was an apologist for Proton during the whole Andy Yen commentary mess, but this is a really sus choice for Proton to be making.

    All that matters under capitalism is growth. I wonder if the thinking here is that Proton has already captured all the geek/privacy enthusiast crowd that it’s going to, and Andy Yen’s social fuck-up basically killed any future expansion in that space, so this is part of a pivot to new markets and abandonment of areas they know they aren’t going to win back.

    If so, I’d expect to see Proton making expanded ad buys targeting preppers, libertarians, sov-cit types and other “I’m being watched!!” kooks.

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    If you’re looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing .com of your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting .eml files, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.

    I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.

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    “limited resources” wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn’t like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen

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    On Mastodon, Proton is held to a higher standard. That’s why they left for the dumb masses instead.

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      They did, yes.

      I’m assuming the next video to be released will be of the Proton CEO and Trump on on some fetish.

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      People on here like complain and will tell that he has his balls in his mouth when in reality all he did was show some hope after the Republicans appointed someone who has a track record of being anti-bigtech. I still think the way the situation was handled terribly, but to say that he is MAGA would be a hell of a stretch in my opinion

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        So it came as a surprise last month when Proton CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party in a post on X, declaring that “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” When the tweet went viral, Proton’s official Reddit account posted a now-deleted comment stating that “Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”

        show some hope huh

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          Yeah so uh youre proving my point, he’s happy that the nominated person is more favorable to small businesses than the one previously nominated by the Democrats. Wether it’s true or false I don’t know, but this post (and his other posts form before and after the event) to me don’t suggest MAGA

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    Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.

    Yet another reason to not like Proton.