• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    The problem with saying “Asians are fetishized” is that EVERY race is fetishized. Every body feature is fetishized. Small tits? Fetishized. Big tits? Fetishized. Black? Fetishized. White? Fetishized. Asian? Fetishized. Wear glasses? Fetishized.

    No matter who you are, there’s SOMEOME fetishizing you.

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      12 hours ago

      which is awesome! if you want to have a hookup with a chaser who only sees you for your anatomy and not as a person with needs

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      That doesn’t make it a good thing or something that shouldn’t be off-putting to the people who are being fetishized. It’s normal to be attracted to certain physical features but when you fetishize certain physical characteristics, ethnic/racial backgrounds, etc. you treat those people as a sexualized objects and not a human being who may have a sexual aspect to them but is much more complex than just the often superficial characteristics that are fetishized.

      People want to be perceived as whole, complex human beings, not just carriers of characteristics that provide you sexual gratification which, if you fetishise something about a person, you are doing to them whether you realize it or not. It’s creepy, disrespectful, and dehumanizing.

      Feel free to feel attracted to certain physical characteristics but do not fetishise people.

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      And it’s still not good, and far less frequent than what Asian women endure in the West.

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        Nah, little/big tits are character traits that span multiple races so they’re probably going to be fetishized more broadly just by virtue of that.

        So here we might need another dimension. I’d call it depth or thoroughness. The idea of submissive asian women might be more thorough in its fetishized details, but probably isn’t as broadly as things like tit size.

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            I mean, I thought we all were goven that Freud’s original definition was something along the lines of “an object that must be present in order for the patient to reach orgasm”.

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      It’s almost what is being fetishized is not the problem everyone has a preference. It’s the objectification that’s the problem and not seeing another person as a whole human with agency.

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        Indeed, being attracted to certain aesthetic features isn’t a bad thing. But seeking out someone to fulfill that fantasy, irrespective of any other factor, is.

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          People are too quick to assume they are being singled-out “irrespective of any other factor” though. We’re all so convinced no-one could like us for who we really are.

          I mean, if I’m being honest, no-one should like me for who I really am, but that hasn’t stopped plenty of people. You get the idea.

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            13 hours ago

            Are people to quick to assume that? Where are you getting that information from? Are you assuming it?

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      I’ve had exactly one partner that was with me as an interracial kink. And it was REALLY creepy. Didn’t like it at all. I ask about family a lot to flush that out, if ‘‘my dad would be so pissed if they knew I was dating you’’ pops up. I’m out. It’s a terrible feeling. The ‘‘this doesn’t matter because it happens to everyone’’ logic is deeply flawed. This isn’t an equation, mutual problems don’t invalidate eachother, it just sucks when you realize you’re experiencing it and you never want to deal with it again.

      Just in case anyone cares, I’m not an Asian woman, I’m a Hispanic man, I relate to the comic, I don’t think it’s invalid because it also has happened to me.

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          It’s not about the dad, it’s about the prospective mate thinking it’s noteworthy. They could say that and then their dad doesn’t give even a little bit of a shit about it.

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            It’s not about the dad, it’s about the prospective mate thinking it’s noteworthy.

            to be clear… prospective mate thinking what is noteworthy?

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              The problem is that she’s interested because his ethnicity is taboo (her dad would flip), not because of who he is as a person.

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                I ask about family a lot to flush that out, if ‘‘my dad would be so pissed if they knew I was dating you’’ pops up. I’m out.

                that doesn’t necessarily mean that “she’s interested because his ethnicity is taboo”. I’ve heard that same phrase countless times, which made me write my previous comment. “She” may be saying the exact same thing without her participating in your taboo/fetish game. Many “couples” from different backgrounds have to go through this with a certain dad or mom or uncle or gran or or or

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                  You know, for a min I thought you were just a very ignorant person, but after reading your multiple intentional bad tasks, I’m sure you just an asshole.

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                    when expression of disagreement is called “asshole”, i can be. I disagree with what’s written in the above comment.

                    Do you live in a world where everybody thinks the same way?

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          I can’t even imagine needing this explained to me. Probably like you likely can’t imagine what’s it’s like to be the ‘other’ society deems outside of the ‘normal’.

          So what are we talking about in this thread. Do you know? We’re talking about being fetishized by your race, ethnicity, what have you. How do you identify someone interested in a kink they want to explore and not interested in YOU. What would identify that situation for you?

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            why do you start by assuming that i need to “imagine what’s it’s like to be the ‘other’ society deems outside of the ‘normal’”?

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              It’s the way you ask questions thar require you to fail to understand what’s being discussed in the first place. That’s why.

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                i disagree with what you wrote, you prefer to focus on what i may or may not be. Maybe it’s the same approach that makes you misjudge people in your personal relations.

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                  Hi, you’re the person who didn’t want to talk about the subject of the thread or the subject of my comment, but INSTEAD, you wanted to discuss why I’m not nice enough for you when you made dumb replies in bad faith. Remember that? I’m not reading anything you’re writing either, but as long as up keep dumping your diarrhea here, I’ll do you the courtesy of reminding you that you are the person who decided to go off on your pretend personal feelings instead of anything on topic. You little weirdo.

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                    I ask about family a lot to flush that out, if ‘‘my dad would be so pissed if they knew I was dating you’’ pops up. I’m out.

                    keep it to the subject. 👆 This is what i commented on.

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      I’ve heard that people are often interested in Asian women because they are expected to be subservient. I just think that while women of any ethnicity can be good-looking*, East Asian women are better-looking on average. I wouldn’t call that a fetish the way that you do, and I don’t think it’s somehow worse than a preference for any other sort of physical feature (which I wouldn’t call a fetish either unless it was very extreme).

      *Good-looking to me rather than in an absolute sense.