U.S. fourth graders saw their math scores drop steeply between 2019 and 2023 on a key international test even as more than a dozen other countries saw their scores improve. Scores dropped even more steeply for American eighth graders, a grade where only three countries saw increases.

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    Bad at tests? Better require more tests. Also make school finding dependent on tests. Then teachers can spend all their class time teaching how to take tests. Oh and lets feed the kids hot garbage and stuff them in overcrowded under funded classrooms. America #1 🇺🇲

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      Crazy thing is, research says frequent testing actually improves learning. BUT, the way it’s practiced by a lot of educational institutions feels like major misinterpretations of this information. It’s about practicing recall, and even better if it’s in a practical context and in low to no stakes scenarios.

      Like you said, when you put so many incentives on test results, teaching to the test rather than the content becomes the norm, and everyone suffers.

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        The small testing for mastery isn’t the issue and is really all that should be done. It’s the hours and hours of state testing that we require of nine year olds that’s the killer. We do quarterly testing starting in third grade with a major test at the end of the year in both reading and math (plus history for 4th and science for 5th). So leaving elementary school kids have completed 30 state assessments that each take several hours to complete (not every kid needs over an hour but you’re still in the testing environment until everyone is finished). Then, there’s no consequences for failing. You still get promoted to the next grade and you’re invited to summer school but not required to attend. If I recall correctly, the data shows that testing is effective and beneficial if its short term, like a unit test, and not long term like a midterm or final.

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      I fully agree. We were teaching how to take tests back in the 1990’s. I’m not going to start on how the voucher system is so beyond faulty. Don’t have enough time for that. I also remember when cafeteria food was semi decent. Cafeteria ladies liked my skinny butt back then. Fed he heck out of me.

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        Cafeteria ladies liked my skinny butt back then. Fed he heck out of me.

        Doesn’t that mean they didn’t like your skinny butt?

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          The food was pretty decent in the early 90’s. It was made at the school so it was fresh. A sight cheaper as well. This was not more than a few years. Food quality changed dramatically after they wanted to run the cafeteria more like a business.

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      I see what youre saying and the point you are making, but lets not forget that the guy we just elected thought the solution to rising covid cases was to stop testing.

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      HOT garbage? And who’s paying to heat this garbage up, me? No thank you! Cold garbage is fine for kids!

      Lol, no but seriously they’d rather just let kids starve.