Yeah I am. Have you seen the sharp uptick in fascism lately?

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Answering fire with fire usually just results in the forest burning down.

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If anyone can carry a gun, I would carry one as well. And what is the correlation with gun violence?

The correlation has been clear since way before the increase. Carrying guns increases gun violence AND that violence is directed disproportionately at women and people of color.

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Ofc. What I asked is the change/increase during that period, from 2015 to 2019. I asked for the data

You asked what is the correlation. That could mean a characterization of results, raw data, or anything in between. Since you said you would carry a gun if everyone else is, I opted for a characterization since that logically means that you think carrying guns keeps individuals safer.

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I should have been more specific yes. Anyway the article is lacking very much because it does not show the correlation. Also maybe the correlation should be adjusted for the social isolation period that lead to an increase in things like mass shootings

logically means that you think carrying guns keeps individuals safer

Ah no. In a scenario in which everyone carries a gun, it only seems riskier to not carry a gun as well

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You don’t need to look far to find a plethora of studies linking firearm legislation and firearm injury but I suspect this isn’t really about whether its worse for society but whether your risk goes up and what contributes to the risk of firearm injury. Unsurprisingly, owning a gun increases your risk of firearm related injury in the same way that being in a country where guns are used to shoot at people (such as the US) also increases your risk. The harvard injury control website has some high level findings that are rather easy to consume if you’re looking for the biggest factors.

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Yeah. Still none of those report on 2015-2019. I’m aware it increases gun violence. I mostly criticizing the article for not making an actual correlation, which I find is an important information to add.

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What is it about the years 2015 to 2019 that are special? Located within the studies listed are evaluations of gun legislation, gun ownership, gun carry rates, and outcomes (notably spanning different periods of time and across different locations in the world). Do you believe that this does not adequately capture the gun related changes described in the article linked?

Any moron has the right to have a weapon, what can go wrong?

Not any moron. Just most of them. And when they mix with alcohol, tragedy often strikes. A drunk man near the university I work at was trying to break up a fight. The university police arrived. He had a gun loosely attached to him that slipped. He bent to pick it up and they yelled to him to leave it on the ground. He kept grabbing for the gun because of being drunk. They shot him dead, right there. Personally, I blame the system, that he felt he needed a gun when it was clearly not safe for him to have one.

That is the point, you can also have a weapon in the EC, but there are strong restrictions on this. You have to present a psychotechnical certificate, have no criminal record, have good reasons for having a weapon, either by profession, belong to a shooting club, hunter, athlete… this allows you to have a weapon corresponding to the activity, not another . Weapons cannot be carried on the street, they must be safely stored outside of the activities for which they are used.

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