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    52 years ago

    Full quote:

    “NHK: The UN Security Council held an urgent meeting on the referendums on joining Russia in eastern and southern Ukraine. What is China’s position on this?”

    Wang Wenbin: Let me first reiterate China’s long-standing position that the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries must be respected, that the purposes and principles of the UN Charter must be observed, that the legitimate security concerns of all countries must be taken seriously, and that all efforts conducive to the peaceful settlement of crises must be supported. On the Ukraine issue, China always stands on the side of peace and has been committed to promoting peace talks. We are ready to work with the international community and continue to play a constructive part in deescalating the situation.

    The Security Council, as the core of the international collective security mechanism, needs to make full use of the mediation tools provided for in the UN Charter and steer the situation in the right direction of ending the fighting and promoting dialogue. The Council needs to take constructive and responsible actions in particular to accumulate conditions and open up space for a political resolution.

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      42 years ago

      You could read this as “China’s long-standing position that the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries must be respected (breakaway regions held a referendum to join Russia, that must be respected)”, but it’s very hard to read it that way when you consider the case of Taiwan

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        “sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries must be respected”

        when you consider the case of Taiwan

        Or sovereignty of… y’know… Ukraine

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          China doesn’t really care about Ukraine, only what Ukraine could mean to them in terms of China’s ownership over Taiwan

          I wish it didn’t do be like that but it do

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            11 year ago

            And if challenged in the future, they’ll make sure to creatively reinterpret any past statements to be in line with current interests. China cares about China. That’s fine, but people shouldn’t have any illusions.

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          Might want to read up on why those parts are now part of Ukraine. Hint, they weren’t always part of Ukraine and was transferred by the USSR who figured that there would always be freedom of movement between them so it doesn’t really matter, kind of like how the demarcation of states in the US aren’t walls.

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            Might wanna read up on why Moscow is now part of Russia. Hint, they weren’t always part of Russia and was transferred by the Mongol Empire who figured that there would always be freedom of movement between them so it doesn’t really matter, kind of like how the demarcation of states in the US aren’t walls.

            While you’re at it, might as well check on definition of revisionism

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              11 year ago

              You wanna apply this to the Indigenous nations of North America too while you’re on your strawman?

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          legitimate security concerns of all countries must be taken seriously

          Like not being encroached by NATO despite multiple promises.

          Also in caase of Donbas not being murdered for not supporting the coup going explicitly against them is legit security concern too.

          In that entire quote from 3 posts above, they basically said nothing they did not said before. Read: they won’t take any open action.

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        You know, Spain and the entire EU has been going on real hard about Taiwan lately, maybe they should address things like… Catalonia.

        Or the UK with Northern Ireland.

        Or the US with Hawai’i, oh but it’s only the Indigenous Hawaiians that want independence so who cares. Same with Alaska, go and ask any Inuit community if they like being an oil state or not. Actually, ask any Indigenous people in the US if they like being in the US. Same with Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

        Call it whataboutism all you want, but I’m one of those weird people who think that there’s something to be said about if you accuse another country of human rights abuses, whether they’re true or not, maybe you shouldn’t do the exact same thing. It’s kind of like you’re accusing someone of killing people while jamming a knife into someone else’s chest, is that whataboutism?

        Hint, both Taiwan and HK are much more independent from Mainland China than Catalonia, Northern Ireland, Hawai’i, or Alaska, or any Indigenous nation, from their respective ruling countries.

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          41 year ago

          I’m like… All for regions having legitimate referendums? As a fellow Canadian, do you recall when Quebec had their fair vote?

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            Yeah? And if it had gotten majority leave vote do you seriously think the Canadian government would have actually acted upon it? Did Harper look like the kind of guy to just say “well, if this is what you want, you’re a grown up province now! Go out there and see the world!”

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              Yes? I know you were young when it happened but Quebec was extremely close to becoming its own country

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          Peoples != regions. China is an imperialistic and terroristic state/regime as well as Russia. Both are ignoring fundamental principals of human rights and hide their true face by lies in words of so called »international law« and »UN principals«.

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          Are you serious, comparing Catalonia & Northern Irelands history & political situation to Taiwan??