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    32 years ago

    Ah yes, some good Putinist propaganda to start the day. 🤣

    Asking important questions like “is Zelenskiy losing the plot” after the Russians got pushed out of Northern Ukraine, lost Moskva, lost the Snake Island, and are barely able to make any gains at all in Donbas after throwing everything they got against a country that is 28 times smaller.

    Lemme guess, half a year ago the same galaxy brain would insist that Putin would “conquer” Ukraine in three days, a week tops, and that it’s better for Ukrainians to just accept the fate instead of prolonging the war?

    1/10 but only for comedic factor

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      -22 years ago

      And all that is thanks to *elensky posing for photo shoots? Anyway, I guess your opinion will change once Poland enters the war. Really not something to look forward to.

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        12 years ago

        Zelenskiy has shown he is both an effective leader and an effective communicator (unsurprisingly, with his media experience). And communicating outside of Ukraine is quite an important task if one wants to keep the foreign aid and support flowing.

        Putting it as “Zelenskiy poses for Vogue as Ukraine loses towns” is a low-quality clickbait, slimy attempt at making him look bad and sow doubts regarding his character.

        And all that is thanks to *elensky posing for photo shoots?

        And this, my friend, is called eristic. Obviously not all of this is thanks to photo shoots. But his photo shoots and media appearances helped Ukraine immensely, and you know that just as well as I do.

        If they hadn’t, he would not be now attacked with low-blow, crappy propaganda hot takes like this in the first place. 😄

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          12 years ago

          Zelensky dragged his country into a horrific war and Ukraine is now losing massive amounts of territory as a result. If that’s your idea of effective leadership you seriously need to get your head checked.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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              22 years ago

              One would think that’s pretty obvious. He should have abandoned NATO ambitions, implemented Minsk agreements and agreed to neutrality.

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                -22 years ago

                Why abandon NATO ambition ? It is a defensive alliance that he seems to need, given the fact his country had alredy been attacked by Russia

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                  32 years ago

                  NATO is not a defensive alliance. It’s been involved in constant war and expansion for the past 30 years. Plenty of western experts have explained in long detail why Ukrainian ambitions to join NATO would lead to this. For example, here’s what Chomsky had to say on the issue recently:

                  https://truthout.org/articles/us-approach-to-ukraine-and-russia-has-left-the-domain-of-rational-discourse/

                  https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-us-military-escalation-against-russia-would-have-no-victors/

                  50 prominent foreign policy experts (former senators, military officers, diplomats, etc.) sent an open letter to Clinton outlining their opposition to NATO expansion back in 1997:

                  George Kennan, arguably America's greatest ever foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy warned that NATO expansion was a "tragic mistake" that ought to ultimately provoke a "bad reaction from Russia" back in 1998.

                  Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was "the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat [...] since the Soviet Union collapsed"

                  Academics, such as John Mearsheimer, gave talks explaining why NATO actions would ultimately lead to conflict this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

                  These and many other voices were marginalized, silenced, and ignored. Yet, now people are trying to rewrite history and pretend that Russia attacked Ukraine out of the blue and completely unprovoked.