For poor people (ex lumenproletariat, but incl anyone struggling, which incls some middleclass ‘big spenders’) hard to give a hoot about privacy when like the bottom 2 rungs of maslow’s hierarchy of needs are lacking.

I personally bumped into digital privacy/the fediverse somewhat randomly when covid lockdowns were happening. Always sorta had an innate concept of privacy compared to some people though.

My hypothesis is the adage “out of sight, out of mind”. Is not the same having someone physically following you everywhere in a surveillance van, looking inside your home, when you buy groceries the cashier hands a copy of your receipt to the surveillance guy, etc. Since all that happens “hidden” away through the many services, apps, store cards, credit cards, etc. Although not all are too ‘hidden away’ as you can read it on their TOS and privacy terms or overwhelmingly obvious like in places like casinos with all the cameras but people cant be bothered reading TOS or got normalized to see all the cameras. We also often overestimate ourselves (human beings) thinking we have a level of intelligence and rational capacity but in reality we are more emotional and prioritize bias over rationality.

I see this problem in the same way.

I think the recent allegations (whether true or not) that period tracking apps in USA (and other counties where abortion is illegal) might make users’ data available to goverments could make people reconsider.

Do you mean Lumpenproletariat?

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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

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